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Day 21 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 9, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/09/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 9th, is DAY #21 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday was the first full day of defense witnesses. Perhaps the most significant of the first set were the two police officers who stated Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father, said on 2/28/12 the cries for help on the 911 calls were NOT Trayvon. Later in the day Tracy Martin took the stand and essentially said the two detectives were lying. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

What additionally strikes as important to us is the first signs of desperation from the original nucleus of the Scheme Team construct, Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks – attorneys for the Martin family. Parks appeared on Piers Morgan show last night and the video should be watched by anyone who knows how the scheme was constructed.

We accept that Mark O’Mara is conflicted in this case, and he is trying to walk a fine line between presenting a defense to a case built on political pressure and outright fraud; Yet simultaneously avoiding exposition of both the politics and the fraud itself.

The intentionally avoided open doors exposing the fraud creates anxiety for those of us who know what is inside the room he is avoiding. Our prayers are that his passing those wide open doors is based on prudence [within an unknown strategy]. However, our fear is the hasty and politically correct avoidance might cause him to pass by the room holding the key to George Zimmerman’s ultimate ‘long-term’ freedom.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrap up with a community/LEO preparation meeting today.

(Excerpt) Read more at wftv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: george; kangaroocourt; showtrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/09/2013 4:51:38 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Bookmark


2 posted on 07/09/2013 4:52:59 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Uncle Chip

btt


3 posted on 07/09/2013 4:53:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Uncle Chip

bookmarked


4 posted on 07/09/2013 4:57:20 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Uncle Chip

bookmarked


5 posted on 07/09/2013 4:57:24 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Uncle Chip

I’m in.


6 posted on 07/09/2013 4:57:31 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Uncle Chip

Did the defense really expect that daddy gang banger would NOT lie? He’s only in it for the money and so far is making out pretty well.


7 posted on 07/09/2013 4:57:47 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: All; anyone; Bronzy; hoosiermama; Nervous Tick; don-o; ladyjane; ArmstedFragg; Chewbarkah; ...

Four Live Stream Links:

http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zimmerman-live-stream.html

http://livewire.wesh.com/

http://www.clickorlando.com/

Here are some additional *possible* Links to the Hearing:

WFTV http://www.wftv.com/s/zimmerman-livestream/

Click Orlando http://www.clickorlando.com/news/trayvo … index.html

Orlando Sentinel (Fox 35 live stream) http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loc … on-martin/

WESH http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florid … index.html

cfnews http://www.cfnews13.com/content/news/cf … artin.html

MyfoxOrlando http://www.myfoxorlando.com/category/23 … von-martin

CNN http://edition.cnn.com/US/

TruTV/InSession link: http://www.superusvoxtv.com/index.php/speciality/tru-tv


8 posted on 07/09/2013 4:58:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Live threads are a venerable tradition on FR. We enjoy sharing our thoughts, opinions and knowledge related to events as they unfold. The live threads can also be useful to those who cannot see the event itself, but look to the thread for updates on what is happening.

Though we may be “like minded” we are still individuals with unique insights and perceptions. Mutual respect should be shown in the way we react to each other.

A certain amount of “rough and tumble” goes with the territory. But, there needs to be a limit, especially on the live threads.. After all, isn’t self-restraint a virtue that conservatism promotes?

9 posted on 07/09/2013 4:58:45 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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Bkmrk


10 posted on 07/09/2013 4:59:09 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: don-o

bookmark


11 posted on 07/09/2013 5:04:42 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Uncle Chip
OK so TM basically said the officers are lying, does that sound familiar? Reminds me of the OJ trial and putting the officers on trial.
12 posted on 07/09/2013 5:05:03 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Uncle Chip
I am hoping the toxicology report turns up traces of amyl nitrate.


13 posted on 07/09/2013 5:06:06 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: don-o

Judge Reverses Herself?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/trayvon-martin-marijuana-usage-657901


14 posted on 07/09/2013 5:06:14 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Dusty Road

Yeah but they nailed him on the depo. He’s reduced to “I lied under oath about the depo but not the cops”.


15 posted on 07/09/2013 5:07:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Uncle Chip

I would be surprised to see them finish on Wednesday. They still need to make it absolutely crystal clear to the world that Trashcan ran the length of a football field to the house where he was staying and back again to ambush George from the shadows. Any talk of “who was screaming” has got to be pushed off the front page once and for all.


16 posted on 07/09/2013 5:11:23 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Uncle Chip

“We accept that Mark O’Mara is conflicted in this case, and he is trying to walk a fine line between presenting a defense to a case built on political pressure and outright fraud; Yet simultaneously avoiding exposition of both the politics and the fraud itself. “

I don’t agree with this

I think something has happened behind the scenes -such as a sidebar that has tied MOM’s hands. He was carefully constructing his sentences when questioning Lee after a lengthy sidebar


17 posted on 07/09/2013 5:11:46 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Uncle Chip

Present and ready to go!


18 posted on 07/09/2013 5:14:44 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: RummyChick

there is a video on that site in the comments showing the Vet in the courtroom on Day 3.


19 posted on 07/09/2013 5:16:19 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: jiggyboy
Word yesterday was 23 - 26 witnesses to be called. No way it wraps Wednesday.

How quickly will he get Crump on the stand? How deeply will he dig into the jiggery pokery that even created this fiasco?

Answers I am hoping for:

1. Soon
2. Very

20 posted on 07/09/2013 5:18:25 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Thanks, Uncle Chip, for another live thread. Insights by Freepers are the best anywhere on the web.

Everyone please say a prayer for Mark O’Mara, Mr. West. and George Zimmerman, so that truth will prevail and evil will not flourish in that courtroom today.

I have a feeling today will be explosive, especially if the Crump deposition comes into the light of day.

And pray for the State to be constrained in their effort to railroad George Zimmerman. He is half my age and I am amazed at his comportment each day. It would eat me up alive to have to endure this travesty of a trial.


21 posted on 07/09/2013 5:19:51 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: don-o

Why would Crump be called?


22 posted on 07/09/2013 5:20:31 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: RummyChick

Yep — unfortunately it is here at 46:16:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWWUJRoHTXg


23 posted on 07/09/2013 5:21:19 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Bump!


24 posted on 07/09/2013 5:22:52 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: jiggyboy

The Defense also needs to note how George Zimmerman called the police to report a suspspicious person, and Trayvon Martin did not call the police. Instead, Trayvon Martin called the girl to report there was about to be a fight. Trayvon Martin was the pursuer and not the pursued, according to the timeline, the police calls, and the intimidating circling of George Zimmerman in his vehicle.


25 posted on 07/09/2013 5:23:05 AM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Hoodat

Robitussin is more likely. I doubt they tested for it.


26 posted on 07/09/2013 5:23:24 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: Uncle Chip

So we’re looking at,

Motions for the defense introducing the animation as evidence first thing. Wasn’t settled last night. And supporting witnesses?

The Medical Examiner about the tox report in front of the jury this time.

Crump.

Fox News says defense may rest today.


27 posted on 07/09/2013 5:23:35 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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Morning all ! Do appreciate the play by play and those who keep on topic. It sure makes catching up easier!


28 posted on 07/09/2013 5:23:39 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: RummyChick

Is this the Medic who also helped GZ financially? you are talking about? He was present in the court room?


29 posted on 07/09/2013 5:23:50 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: MNDude

I haven’t followed this closely regarding Crump. But this case should have never been brought, and the fact that it was brought has much to do with the machinations of Crump, the race baiting industry and the Martin family...


30 posted on 07/09/2013 5:24:44 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: Old Sarge

She had to....The State’s witness, the ME, opened the door.


31 posted on 07/09/2013 5:26:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: don-o

yes, he was in the courtroom and Pros. brought that up yesterdy


32 posted on 07/09/2013 5:27:06 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

It’s unbelievable to me the verdict is likely to come out while the NAACP convention is there.


33 posted on 07/09/2013 5:28:09 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Partial breakdown of what’s left for today’s agenda:

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/7/8/21041/53747/crimenews/Zimmerman-Trial-Toxicology-Report-Is-Admissible


34 posted on 07/09/2013 5:29:22 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: don-o
Mark and West's pattern at present is: One witness = One point.

Hence, the cop, the cop, Tracy.....He did, he did, I didn't.

This also keeps order for the jurors.

The state will cross and try to confuse the "orderliness". It's their only recourse.

35 posted on 07/09/2013 5:30:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: RummyChick

It would be ironic if they had a riot while the NAACP was there. The low info voters are being fed a steady diet of riot feed.


36 posted on 07/09/2013 5:31:21 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: RummyChick

Trial just started, w/o jury.


37 posted on 07/09/2013 5:31:39 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Sacajaweau

And we begin.


38 posted on 07/09/2013 5:31:42 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: MNDude

Crump is responsible for creating much of the prosecution’s case out of thin air.


39 posted on 07/09/2013 5:32:11 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Uncle Chip

Marko....


40 posted on 07/09/2013 5:32:19 AM PDT by John 3_19-21 ("as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.")
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To: Uncle Chip

A reminder that “Fruitvale Station”, a movie that happens to be about a white cop shooting an unarmed black teenager, happens to be opening this weekend in a few theaters here and there.

http://www.fruitvalefilm.com/pages/buy-tickets

Ads I’ve seen on HLN during their coverage of the Zimmerman trial (how’s that for targeted advertising) say that what I guess is the general opening will be on July 26.

How’s that for timing.


41 posted on 07/09/2013 5:32:54 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

Sounds like they deposed Shoemaker after court last evening - I think he is the creator of the animation


42 posted on 07/09/2013 5:35:22 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Fox News says defense may rest today.

Well, a tornado may strike the courthouse today too, but it doesn't seem likely to me.

To rest today would be to gamble that the incompetence of the prosecution is plainly visible to all.

I say hammer it home.

43 posted on 07/09/2013 5:35:27 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: RummyChick

“We accept that Mark O’Mara is conflicted in this case, and he is trying to walk a fine line between presenting a defense to a case built on political pressure and outright fraud; Yet simultaneously avoiding exposition of both the politics and the fraud itself. “

I don’t agree with this

I think something has happened behind the scenes -such as a sidebar that has tied MOM’s hands. He was carefully constructing his sentences when questioning Lee after a lengthy sidebar
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Absolutely, the judge has almost certainly restricted any movement to show that this is a carefully constructed fraud and railroading of Zimmerman for political (and other, such a potential public safety) reasons. This was clear in MOM’s questioning of the police (interviewers and former police chief)—he was avoiding this area almost certainly to avoid any sanctions from this corrupt judge.


44 posted on 07/09/2013 5:38:31 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: WhiskeyX

Good one. If Old Media were honest, the questions they would be hypnotizing America with would be, “why would somebody call the police if he was planning to shoot a guy he was looking at?” and “why did TM go all the way to the house and back again?”, not “who is screaming” or “why didn’t he stay in his car like the dispatcher told him to”


45 posted on 07/09/2013 5:38:56 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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bump


46 posted on 07/09/2013 5:39:05 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's Enemies List - Yes, you are a crook.)
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To: RummyChick
yes, he was in the courtroom and Pros. brought that up yesterdy

But, didn't the ruling take that into consideration? It's not still in Question, is it?

47 posted on 07/09/2013 5:39:33 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Old Sarge

One of Bao-zao the Clown’s many content-free inanities was something like, “marijuana can have no effect, or some effect”, which, as they say, “opened the door”.


48 posted on 07/09/2013 5:41:46 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

Bao-zao the Clown should have gone into politics, instead. Lots of words saying and signifying absolutely nothing.


49 posted on 07/09/2013 5:42:58 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Raebie

Amyl nitrate is linked to violence, causes liver damage, and would give a user just enough energy rush to go full-MMA on some crazy-ass cracker for a minute or two.


50 posted on 07/09/2013 5:43:15 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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