Posted on 07/09/2013 12:44:27 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
The Russian Navy will receive 36 warships in 2013, an unprecedented number in Russias history, Navy Deputy Commander-in-Chief, Vice Admiral Alexander Fedotenkov said on Sunday, July 7, according to RIA Novosti.
During this year, 36 combat ships, fast attack crafts and support vessels will join the Russian Navy. This has never happened before, Fedotenkov said at the International Maritime Defense Show in St. Petersburg.
Russian Navy warships are now performing missions in all areas of the World Ocean, with over 60 combat ships currently at sea, he said.
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yeah, but can their sailors sodomize one another in a consequence free environment? Didn’t think so.
Pearl Harbor II?
Reminds me of 1920-1941 America.
Hostile nations build, invest, develop, US downsizes...
In 1989 while the Peaceniks were dancing around the crumbled Berlin wall, I was telling folks, “don’t jump for joy just yet”. The Russian bear is injured, but not down...
Thinking of Red Dawn...the original not that crappy remake.
I say the Regime is making the US target rich for the taking.
Russia has a long way to go in getting their navy up to speed. They need to scrap a lot of currently used inventory that is obsolete and unreliable
I saw a very disturbing picture in FR one night. It was within the past year or even six months. IIRC five of our carriers sitting at the NOB Piers in Norfolk and two were in a shipyard readiness posture. By that I mean tents on the flight deck and shipyard sheds. It seems the short tow up the river to Portsmouth {Norfolk Naval Shipyards} was not in the budget I guess. One was being prepped for reactor refueling I think. It should have been across at Newport News then not out in the open unable to get underway or defensive systems function. That area is known for bad straight line storms also. I've seen ships at those piers tore loose and blown out in the channel before.
We are making a grave mistake in our national defenses one from which we may not recover.I don't mean just ships. I mean everything from aircraft, tanks, firearms, missile defense systems, down to Top's Jeep.
Watch the M.E. and watch what Russia does in the next few years. A Vacuum has been created by recent events. Russia will fill it. The sleeping bear is wakening up and it's gonna be hungry too. Our leaders in the White House and Congress ignore this at the expense of our future as a nation.
Yes, Russia is often portrayed as a petrocracy living off thier oil sales but the reality is extraction makes about same share with US economy for Russia and a real manufacturing actually makes larger percent for their economy than it is for US.
If you want a Chevy Tahoe or a Toyota Camry in Europe or Central Asia it is labeled “Made in Russia”. Russia makes HDTVs under their domestic brands. Do you know any US-manufactured one?
Using N.O.B as a shipyard is gonna bite them on the butt eventually. Shipyard work carries with is extra risk meaning needing extra support at the facility in case of emergencies.
Thanks for the info I knew I'd seen the pictures I was speaking of. There are a few more too like 4 in a row in numerical order. N.O.B. should not have more than three carriers there ever for any reason. The Navy has a carrier pier in Mayport, Florida or did if it's still there.
That upcoming cruise I read later opened up the Suez to carrier traffic again. America was the first to transit it since the war with Egypt and Syria. Carriers were going around the Horn but really after Nam I don't think many did unless it was a world cruise. I'm skeptical about using The Suez even. Just seems like it's inviting trouble.
When we off loaded carrier to carrier we usually did it at sea with Helo's best I remember.But we were east coast and MED Sea based. A relief rotation in the MED meant anchoring off ROTA for a few hours usually. WE only tied up in one foreign port and that was France and even then we stayed steaming. We tied up at Mayport several times.
Yuch.
My daddy was a career Marine, and used to make jokes about that.
Again, yuch.
It was at Christmas, December 2012, and five carries were docked at one time at Norfolk naval station for the holidays. Hmmm, wasn't there another attack on the US fleet a few week before Christmas? Those nuclear carrier you see there are the:
CVN 65 USS Enterprise
CVN 69 USS Dwight Eisenhower
CVN 72 USS Abraham Lincoln
CVN 75 USS Harry Truman
CVN 77 USS USS George Bush
There was also one across the way at Newport News going through long term work on her reactor, and even another, the new USS Ford being built at Newport News Ship building.
Foolish temptation to any adversary. Not to mention the four large amphibious assault ships (carrier in their own right) and all of the destroyers, subs, etc. docked there at the same time.
Outside of those six, we have five others however...but at least three of those were in port too, at Bremerton, San Diego and in Japan at the same time.
So, an adversary, wanting to decapitate our navy could place four nukes and get all of those carriers and most of their support ships and at least half of our amphibious fleet at one blow.
The only thing stopping them is our nuclear deterrent and the belief that we would respond with a devastating counter strike.
Absolutely incredible. This is what happens when you have a community organizer running your military.
Not the first time I have posted this:
“War to the hilt between Communism and Capitalism is
inevitable. Today, of course, we are not strong enough
to attack. Our time will come in 20 or 30 years. To
win, we shall need the element of surprise. The
bourgeoisie will have to be put to sleep. So we shall
begin by launching the most spectacular peace movement
on record. There will be electrifying overtures and
unheard-of concessions. The capitalistic countries,
stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate in
their own destruction. They will leap at another
chance to be friends. As soon as their guard is down,
we will smash them with our clenched fist.”
— Dimitry Z. Manulsky, to the Lenin School of
Political Warfare, 1931.
No it reminds me of what typically happens when we have a demoncrat in office. While our leadership denigrates and destroys our military and it’s capabilities our enemies build theirs.
The following vessels are all lined up there:
All sitting pretty as you please in one place.
In those other three ports, San Diego, Bremerton, and Japan, one nuclear carrier, one Amphibious Assault Carrier, one LPD, and probably 2 crusiers and 4 destroyers and two replenishment vessels each, so another total of:
So, on Christmas Day, 2012, we had a total of 67 of our largest, most capable vessels sitting lined up in four different ports, amounting to over, 2,000,000 tons of naval war vessels.
We have a total of 10 nuclear carriers, 8 were in those ports.
We have a total of 10 amphibious assault carreirs, 7 were in those ports.
We have a total of 9 San Antonio LPDs, 5 were in those ports.
We have a total of 22 Gudied-missile cruisers, 8 were in thos eports.
We have a total of 62 guided-missile destroyers, 22 were in those ports.
We have a total of 17 guided-missile firgates, 7 were in those ports.
We have a total of 30+ replinshement vessels of all sorts, 8 were in those ports.
It represented a sizable part of our entire surface Navy in four ports at one time. It represented a large majority of our surface naval power projection capability.
You know, ‘at newport news’ is not any less ‘out in the open. Not as far as defense systems.
Also the one you were seeing was probably Enterprise. She is now at NN being defueled prior to decommissioning.
Yeah except since one was being decommissioned soon it was really just 4. and that is not that uncommon.
If you count the ones across the way in the shipyard then Hampton Roads is ALWAYS a tempting target. Since I moved here there have rarely been fewer than three carriers on the navy side plus Ford in the shipyard side. And that is not counting the Amphibs. Unless we open another carrier home port in the east coast that will not change.
On the upside it would take a BIG nuke, or more than one, to get both the shipyard and the navy base.
And, the the PCU vessel, what will be the USS Gerald Ford, which is nearing completion was also there in Newport News, so arguably, there were six.
At that point (dec 2012), the USS Enterpise was still fully functional and could have easily been called back to service if necessary.
If I were an enemy, and was convinced that the US admin would not retailiate with a massive nuclear strike, I'd be awful tempted to send 10 birds flying, two at each base, and decimate the US fleet and naval capability in one strike.
But, that nuclear deterrent, both on land, what we still have for air, and particularly the trident subs, allows us to do this type of thing.
And it works as long as they know they will all burn in hell, literally, if they were to try it. But, if they think (or know) they have cowed an administration into not responding, or if they are fanatics like the Iranians, then the retaliation gambit does not work.
We may be able to save San Diego and Bremerton with the Land Based BMD interceptors.
BMD capable AEGIS vessels may also be able to knock a couple of down elsewhere if they are positioned appropriately.
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