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1 posted on 07/07/2013 8:47:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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This began with the American Revolution. When colonists declared their independence on July 4, 1776, religious conviction inspired them. Because they believed that their cause had divine support, many patriots’ ardor was both political and religious. They saw the conflict as a just, secular war, but they fought it with religious resolve, believing that God endorsed the cause. As Connecticut minister Samuel Sherwood preached in 1776: “God Almighty, with all the powers of heaven, are on our side. Great numbers of angels, no doubt, are encamping round our coast, for our defense and protection.”

Several founding fathers were more theologically liberal than the typical evangelical Protestant of their day. Still, few were anti-religious, and the nation’s architects often stated that religion supported virtue, which was essential to patriotism.....

They didn't call it The Presbyterian Rebellion for nothing:
American Government and Christianity - America's Christian Roots
Reformation Faith & Representative Democracy
July 4th -- Happy "Presbyterian Rebellion" Day!
Jenny Geddes
CALVINISM IN AMERICA
The Presbyterian Rebellion: An analysis of the perception
The Presbyterian Rebellion
John Calvin was America’s ’Founding Father’
John Calvin and the American Founding
THE 1780 PRESBYTERIAN REBELLION AND THE BATTLE OF HUCK'S DEFEAT
"A Scotch-Irish Presbyterian Rebellion"
Presbyterianism and the American Revolution in the Middle Colonies
Calvin and American Exceptionalism
Preachers under fire: politics from the pulpit breaks the law, some say

2 posted on 07/07/2013 8:57:27 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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Every participant on the American side commented on the role played by Providence. The outcome of any war has its share of “lucky” coincidences and the Revolution (Major Andre’s chance capture with the plans to West Point comes to mind) seemed to have more than its share.


3 posted on 07/07/2013 8:59:37 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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If the Revolution was a war of Religion who won? The Crusades were mentioned so the Crusaders killed the Jews and muslims in Jerusalem and established their religion. Most religions are allowed here especially now. The Boston Tea Party was over taxation and lack or representation.
5 posted on 07/07/2013 9:00:16 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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The declaration of independence more or less said “we’re tired of your crap”.

Freedom from English crap was the reason for the revolution.


7 posted on 07/07/2013 9:02:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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Folks, religion did play a part in the Revolutionary War. Let's face it though, religion played a major part in many things in this nation's history. We were a religious people. We believed in the Christian God and acted accordingly. What we saw as fit, was for us divinely inspired.

Okay, we should accept that. Now, what is the take-away?

Was this nation founded in a Holy War? No. Don't even think about attributing it to that. Let me explain why.

This is the Washington comPost. Is the comPost a fan of Christianity? Is it a fan of our nation's founding? Does it believe in our Founders, Founding Documents, and the Christian based ideals our nation has stood for since it's inception? NO!

This is a thinly veiled effort to tie our founding to something the Left thinks it can dismiss on issues of validity.

There is a movement brewing that tries to make the case our nation should never have been created. I have a number of four letter words in my mind, that I'll keep reserved there to apply to these efforts.

Be aware of it. Reject this notion.

Our nation has meant a lot to the free world. It must never be belittled into insignificance, or the whole world suffers. Even evil enterprises like the Washington comPost will suffer. Ignorance is bliss, and the folks at the comPost are euphoric in their blind-eyed simpleton's existence.

8 posted on 07/07/2013 9:11:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator...
9 posted on 07/07/2013 9:13:57 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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The Revolution was about a government of the People by the People. You have to be mind numbing mindless in finding religion the cause in reading the Constitution.

Did they dress up as clerics in the Boston Tea Party?

10 posted on 07/07/2013 9:16:52 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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Religious war? Hmmm. Christian colonists, a majority of whom were Church of England fought against Britain, the mother country which was mostly Church of England.

This was not about religious beliefs, it was about the political (not religious) tyranny being imposed by the mother country.


12 posted on 07/07/2013 9:19:57 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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Question: "Was the American Revolution a holy war?"

Answer: No, it was a rationally based political separation from England.

Comment: "Holy wars" and "Crusades" belong, in general to mobs and "Democracies." The Athenians and the American Civil War. The enemy is to be annihilated not merely defeated.

15 posted on 07/07/2013 9:28:04 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Given that the average American was much more religious in 1776 than in 2013, it wouldn’t surprise me that there was a general feeling of “God is on our side” in the conflict.


18 posted on 07/07/2013 9:35:40 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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I thought I remember tea being thrown off the ships in Boston Harbor, not KJV bibles.


22 posted on 07/07/2013 9:48:07 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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I came across this blog yesterday.I found it interesting
http://faithandamericanhistory.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/summer-reading-on-faith-and-the-founding/


27 posted on 07/07/2013 10:26:35 AM PDT by valiant4thetruth
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No, it was an economic war in that the colonists saw that "debt capitalism" (oxymoron) works. It wasn't just the idea of a nation observing "Christian" principles (Protestant morality) and subscribing to social morality being taught from the pulpit -- sayin that The USA is an outcome of appling Calvinism and Presbyterian counsel. That approach ignores three major infuences:

John Locke

His contributions to classical republicanism and liberal theory are reflected in the United States Declaration of Independence

William Blackstone

Commentaries on the Laws of England (1765-1769)

Adam Smith

The latter, usually abbreviated as The Wealth of Nations, is considered his magnum opus and the first modern work of economics. Smith is cited as the "father of modern economics" and is still among the most influential thinkers in the field of economics today

(All combined in the Pilgrims)

Without whom USA would not exist. None of these would have been allowed to draw breath under Romanism or Islamism.

29 posted on 07/07/2013 10:44:06 AM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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Is the war on capitalism and conservatism a holy war?
Yes, it is being waged by the adherents of the socialist religion.
30 posted on 07/07/2013 10:48:00 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama lies, smokes, blasphemes, eats pork, reads your mail, eavesdrops and drinks during Ramadan)
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Was the American Revolution a holy war?

Some have said that another Civil War is brewing, but I'm beginning to believe that another Revolution is needed to underscore the fact that this nation was founded

UNDER GOD!

AND THE LIBERALS BE DAMNED!

31 posted on 07/07/2013 10:50:20 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights!)
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Government is religion applied to economics. A truism.


32 posted on 07/07/2013 10:51:03 AM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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Speaking of the American Independence War, one basic very profitable economic triangle is said to be:

Item 6:

6 the backbone of new england's economy during the colonial period. ships from new england sailed first to africa, exchanging new england rum for slaves. the slaves were shipped from africa to the caribbean (this was known as the middle passage, when many slaves died on the ships). in the caribbean, the slaves were traded for sugar and molasses. then the ships returned to new england, where the molasses were used to make rum.

Was this a holy basis for a war?

(Remember, at this time alcoholic beverages were not generally seen as being a debilitating influence in society by religionists)

33 posted on 07/07/2013 11:00:16 AM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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Okay, so now the American Revolution was a religious war. And when activist justices were deciding the constitutonality of constitutionally indefensible Obamacare in 2012, it was being said that the Boston Tea party as it concerned unfair taxes is what triggered the American Revolution.

So which is it where the American Revolution is concerned, religious issues or tax issues or both?


38 posted on 07/07/2013 12:38:05 PM PDT by Amendment10
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