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To: 0.E.O

“So then are you now saying that compensated emancipation was not the solution?”

I’m saying that compensated emancipation was the only peaceful solution.

“Answer the question please.”

Answer mine. You’ve been going on about how it ‘wasn’t a solution’. The problem wasn’t that it was rejected, the problem is that market compensation of the owners was not even tried. Because that was never the point. The point was to crush the South.

Again, it was tried in the UK and it worked. It meant that those who were involved in the slave trade were not crushed. They were able to ‘cash out’, so to speak. This is why the UK was able to eliminate slavery and avoid a bitterly divided civil war and why black folks in the UK did better than they ever did in America.

“If the government guaranteed that it would pay you fair market value for all your guns, with the understanding that you could not buy more, would you do it?

Me, yes I would do it. Now, answer my question.


98 posted on 07/06/2013 2:17:44 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge
I’m saying that compensated emancipation was the only peaceful solution.

But since there was no interest in it on the part of the slave holders then there was no solution at all.

The problem wasn’t that it was rejected, the problem is that market compensation of the owners was not even tried. Because that was never the point. The point was to crush the South.

So what you are saying is that you would jump at the chance to sell all your guns to the government and forgo any future gun ownership if they offered market price? If so then you would be a complete idiot and I suspect that you are not.

Market price is not the issue. If so then the everyone in the country would gladly disarm themselves at the right price. People don't want to give up their guns, for any number of reasons. Likewise, in 1860 there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that slave owners were willing to give up their chattel, even if offered market price. Slave owners were not interested in giving up their property. So half your equation is missing.

Again, it was tried in the UK and it worked. It meant that those who were involved in the slave trade were not crushed. They were able to ‘cash out’, so to speak. This is why the UK was able to eliminate slavery and avoid a bitterly divided civil war and why black folks in the UK did better than they ever did in America.

You're overlooking one thing, well two things really. The first is that the slave owners in Britain did not have a choice. The Slavery Abolition Act of 1833 mandated the terms of emancipation and the compensation. There was nothing voluntary about it.

The second thing you're overlooking is that Britain did not have a large part of their population willing to launch a bloody rebellion to protect their right to own slaves. The U.S. did.

104 posted on 07/06/2013 2:44:20 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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