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Kansas Jewish Man Refused Entry Into Britain
Arutz Sheva ^ | July 1, 2013 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 07/04/2013 7:32:29 AM PDT by yldstrk

Chip Cantor told his story .... On June 4, he told KMBC he was traveling to Britain to visit and gain summer work experience, and to participate in a fundraiser for a child who has cancer. He left Kansas City on Wednesday, May 29, landed in Britain after 10 p.m. London time and waited in line to go through customs.

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Chip’s father, Chuck Cantor, said .... the customs agent was very pleasant .... until she saw the Israel stamps in his passport. Then she simply walked away with his passport without speaking a word to him. Chip told his father he estimates she was gone 45 minutes to an hour. He never saw her again.

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According to the Chronicle, Chip wasn’t allowed to be in sight of his luggage and eventually was put into what he described to his father as a detention cell.

“At some point a woman who was wearing a burka came to the cell to photograph him,” Chuck said. At that point he was fingerprinted as well.

As she was doing this, she said to him, “We’re putting your name and fingerprints and photos into a database. From now on it is going to be very difficult for you to ever travel in the United Kingdom or anywhere in the E.U. It will be up to each individual country to decide if they want to admit you.”

Chuck said Chip kept telling the customs agents he had not committed any crimes or done anything wrong. Eventually another agent came to tell Chip he was being deported.

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Yeomans, the custom agent, also told Shilling any additional attempts to aid Cantor would be useless and “the little Jew will be on his way back to his rich daddy,” in a matter of hours.

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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; britain; chipcantor; customs; islam; israel; judism; kansas; mulimbigots; sharia; shariahlaw; shsria; unitedkingdom
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Britain not hospitable, don't spend your money there
1 posted on 07/04/2013 7:32:29 AM PDT by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk

And at the same time, they spend years and millions of dollars being unable to deport a Muslim terrorist, and supporting him and his family in style. The Muslim terrorist has lately volunteered to leave because Jordan passed new human rights legislation, but it’s up to him as to if he really will, or change his mind. One man, an avowed terrorist at that, is holding the British people hostage and making them pay, and their government is allowing it.


2 posted on 07/04/2013 7:35:37 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: yldstrk

Can this possibly be true?


3 posted on 07/04/2013 7:36:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

If this is true, I will never step foot in the U.K. again, not that they’d miss me.


4 posted on 07/04/2013 7:37:33 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: yldstrk

I’ve been told to use a duplicate passport if traveling to Israel to avoid this kind of thing. Apparently this happens all the time in several countries.


5 posted on 07/04/2013 7:43:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: yldstrk

I’m suspecting that this isn’t the ‘whole story’.

One fact that I did note - it appeared that he was coming into the EU to work. Was he on a work visa, or was he planning to work while on a tourist permit? That might be reason enough for exclusion.

I’d also be interested in what kind of ‘fundraiser’ he was going to participate in.


6 posted on 07/04/2013 7:44:25 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes, if you go to Israel and get stamped on entry it can be difficult. In some instances it is so bad that they actually will give you two passports.

Now I wonder how long it will be until you cant get back into the States with OMugabe in charge of seemingly everything.


7 posted on 07/04/2013 7:49:13 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: PAR35

Looks like I am on the right track:

“Another was that when Kevin Shilling, the owner of the media company at which Cantor was going to work this summer, called to try and intervene while Cantor was being detained, the customs agent told him that Chip should have lied to the customs agent,”
http://www.jewishpress.com/tag/chip-cantor/

Looks like he gave the wrong answer to the question ‘What is the purpose of your visit’, and is now playing the race card in the best Al Sharpton tradition.


8 posted on 07/04/2013 7:50:54 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: yldstrk

something seems missing in this story. somethings seem to be embellishment in this story. smells funny.


9 posted on 07/04/2013 7:55:23 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Oh it’s true, the kid was a year behind my kid in high school and the report is true. You can find it if you google “chip cantor”.


10 posted on 07/04/2013 7:55:43 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: PAR35

No Par, I think you should read some more of the articles. He had a job lined up with Mr. Shilling, what on earth he could have lied about to help himself is unknown, since he tole the absolute truth. He is not “playing the race card”, he was apparantly excluded, at the age of 22, for having visited Israel and nothing else. For that matter, my mother has visited Israel and she is Catholic. Many Christians and almost all Jewish kids as they grow up around here, anyway, visit Israel.

The British seem to have an illegal enforcement meme going on


11 posted on 07/04/2013 8:00:09 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
once they get past the U.K. Border Agency they will find friendly, welcoming people, without prejudice.”

Replace the words "U.K. Border Agency" with "Transportation Safety Administration" or "Department of Homeland Security". It appears that the only difference is that the U.S. has two gestapo organizations and the U.K. only one. This feels a lot like 1937 all over again.

12 posted on 07/04/2013 8:00:37 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Yes it’s true. I know the family in Kansas City. The kid is upstanding. The lady in the Burka didn’t like the Jew boy with the Israel stamps on his passport.


13 posted on 07/04/2013 8:01:49 AM PDT by ncfool (Obama's aMeriKa 2012 The land of entitlement for the 51% crowd.)
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To: yldstrk

Velkommen Sie zu Grosse Britain der Neue Heimat des Islamvolk!! Keine Juden!!

WHO the hell won WWII? What kind of antisemitic Muslim-butt-kissing bastards run that Country?

They are like Obamabastards on steroids!


14 posted on 07/04/2013 8:05:35 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

>>>Can this possibly be true?<<<

It is pretty common in Europe for a very long time. My sister said she witnessed a couple of ethnic looking French custom officials who randomly picked and pointedly intimidated a well-dressed Jewish woman and a Russian soldier on departure from Paris to Moscow years ago. Forced them to unpack their bags numerous times, confiscated harmless items, went away and back with their passports without any explanation and reason. A man went ballistic and these schmucks called a police telling he is a racist. It took the entire crowd of passengers to stand for their people to stop this.


15 posted on 07/04/2013 8:05:50 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I knew a Jewish American who worked for a major defense contractor and he traveled to Saudi Arabia, Israel, UAE, Kuwait, Germany all the time. At that time the Israelis would actually provide him with a stamped insert for his passport that could be removed for travel to countries that restricted visitors who had traveled to Israel.

BTW, the Saudis were perfectly aware of his ethnicity and travels to Israel and never made an issue out of it. It just part and parcel of the hypocrisy of life in the Middle East. One place in the world he did encounter overt antisemitism was Germany, where a bartender told him Hitler didn’t finish the job. He told the bartender he was one of the ones Hitler missed. (I used to speak fair German and I would hear the same shit from Germans occasionally.)


16 posted on 07/04/2013 8:06:48 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: ZULU

The Judeo-Christians are under attack from the Other


17 posted on 07/04/2013 8:08:03 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I have heard the same from Americans. It is probably the most common bigotry I’ve ever encountered (and I am not Jewish, though people sometimes think I am).


18 posted on 07/04/2013 8:10:17 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Can this possibly be true?”

That’s my question. We need some more info here.


19 posted on 07/04/2013 8:29:20 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307; yldstrk
“Can this possibly be true?” That’s my question. We need some more info here.

More info, and other sides to the story, in the two previous threads on this. Not all that it seems. See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3037802/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3037740/posts

20 posted on 07/04/2013 8:42:08 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: jocon307

Yeah, my experiences with British officials have always been marked by graciousness and common sense. This does not add up.


21 posted on 07/04/2013 8:48:59 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Winniesboy

Oh thanks, I didn’t know it had already been posted


22 posted on 07/04/2013 8:51:24 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Jews entering the UK offends muslims.


23 posted on 07/04/2013 9:00:05 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: yldstrk

Buchanan may be part kook, but he sure got it correct when he said Europe was gone.


24 posted on 07/04/2013 9:11:38 AM PDT by aimhigh (Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: yldstrk
Americans do not need a visa to enter the U.K. They stamp your passport with "Leave to enter for six months. Employment and recourse to public funds prohibited." This youngster was entering the U.K. to take up employment, which would be prohibited without a work visa. The immigration officer was able to elicit that information from the interview and rightfully concluded the younger was misusing the visa-free facility.

In all my travels, I have found immigration officials to be unfailingly courteous but I've observed they quickly become testy if they detect someone attempting to pull a fast one.

25 posted on 07/04/2013 9:27:04 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: yldstrk; Lonesome in Massachussets
I might be able to shed some light on this situation and I will try to be brief as I can. My wife was born in England just before WW2. She taught school there and left for Canada at 21 years of age.

Five years ago, she went back to England to visit her relatives and attend a college reunion. She had a Canadian passport. The conditions of teaching in Canada, meant she had to be Canadian citizen.

She encountered a Muslim woman officer (by head dress) at Heathrow Airport. The woman asked her how long she would be staying and seemed to be perturbed at the answer. This was nine weeks. She said "why are you staying so long"? My wife explained that between attending a wedding and the college reunion, it would take some considerable time. She mentioned she was British and had the right of residence and the woman officer then slammed the passport down and it almost fell of the desk. My wife noted her cold hostile manner, but thanked her politely. She proceeded on her way.

26 posted on 07/04/2013 9:33:20 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: PAR35
One fact that I did note - it appeared that he was coming into the EU to work. Was he on a work visa, or was he planning to work while on a tourist permit? That might be reason enough for exclusion.

You did read the part about the woman in the burkha photographing him and telling him he was not welcome in the EU, right?

That sounds like a little than "exclusion."

27 posted on 07/04/2013 9:54:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have known that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional news?)
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To: aimhigh

He isn’t the only one. Bridget Gabriel - from Labannon, said there are over 250 Sharia courts operating in the UK and there are 800 no go zones for the police in Europe. She said this isn’t your parents Europe anymore.


28 posted on 07/04/2013 10:04:13 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Procyon

I started going to England as a child, and I can remember coming there from Holland when I was about 17 - I had recent stamps in my passport from Bulgaria and Turkey -and being asked the purpose of my trip and how long - I said something like I wanted to go to Stonehenge and would be in England six weeks - and the customs officer got out a big black book and started looking in it. At that point, my mother came up behind me and asked,”is everything all right?” and made it clear that she was my mother. He shut the book and waved us through.
My point is that they have always been stiff and if you say something idiotic, you can get in trouble. That officer was just minutes away from having me searched, and I would have been in a lot of trouble if he had.


29 posted on 07/04/2013 10:21:31 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: ZULU

Calm down and read the thread.


30 posted on 07/04/2013 10:50:07 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: Procyon

Thank you.


31 posted on 07/04/2013 10:50:41 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: Aria

Actually its 85 (some of which are illegal and should be shut down). Only five cities in the UK are allowed to have sharia courts and even 85 seems way too many for 5 cities.


32 posted on 07/04/2013 10:52:06 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: yldstrk

Let’s start by saying that in my experience Europeans by and large are somewhere between mildly and very anti-Semitic.

That being said. I’m not sure about this story. My brother-in-law who lives in Ashdod frequently travels to England and France, with an Israeli passport. I have not heard of him having any trouble.

Additionally, about two years ago, my wife traveled to Israel through London. She spent a few days with friends and relatives in London before flying to Israel and she said the customs people at Heathrow could not have been nicer.

Others have said this, but could he have been traveling on a tourist visa? This would not excuse the treatment he detailed, but it would explain him being barred entry.


33 posted on 07/04/2013 11:32:27 AM PDT by deltabean (Born free, die free.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You did read the part about that being AFTER he had already been detained?

“That sounds like a little than “exclusion.” “

You want to try that in English?


34 posted on 07/04/2013 12:04:14 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: yldstrk

Show me a link to something showing he had a work visa, and I’ll buy the propaganda. Until then, we know his passport shows that he was coming in without a visa, and he said that he was planning to work while he was there - a combination that will get you an exclusion.


36 posted on 07/04/2013 12:18:51 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The ‘obvious’ missing word compelled by the evidence was “less”, not “more”.

But it’s getting fairly late in the evening in the middle east, isn’t it?


37 posted on 07/04/2013 12:21:29 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: the scotsman

Thanks for the info. 85 is 85 too many. Why do the Brits allow this? I don’t get it!

I probably already told you this but my mother is half English and half Scot - something I’ve always been proud of.
Very frustrating since I’ve always figured that I’ve almost literally got skin in the game.


38 posted on 07/04/2013 12:36:28 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: PAR35; deltabean

Yeah I don’t know about the work visa thing, I do know this, so you need a work visa to work for 60 days? If so, he should have had on e if he didn’t have one.

Does lack of a work visa merit being called names and insulted? At the least very unprofessional deserving being fired, and at the most illegal. So England loses wither way, don’t spend your money supporting them.


39 posted on 07/04/2013 1:45:04 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Aria

As we have ‘Beth Din’ jewish civil law, I assume that the Labour Govt felt such a similar muslim civil law (which it is, not a criminal law, contrary to belief in the US) would be OK. And not be abused.........ho hum.


40 posted on 07/04/2013 2:09:47 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: yldstrk

So a whole country is to be judged on the (alleged) actions of one person?.


41 posted on 07/04/2013 2:32:15 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

not the whole country but certainly the whole government


42 posted on 07/04/2013 3:23:04 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Aria

Remember, this is only half of the story. If the Burkacops are hindering good people, just imagine all the bad people that are being allowed in. The brits are nuts to allow this.


43 posted on 07/04/2013 3:36:30 PM PDT by aimhigh (Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: yldstrk

Looks like his employer would need to sponsor him as a temporary worker. Doesn’t look like he’d fit under the other categories.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/working/
It doesn’t look like he’d fit under the visitor category to do business.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/visiting/


44 posted on 07/04/2013 3:52:24 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
"Looks like he gave the wrong answer to the question ‘What is the purpose of your visit’, and is now playing the race card in the best Al Sharpton tradition."

Read it again, genius. THATS NOT the context of what the custom agent said in EITHER article.

Another was that when Kevin Shilling, the owner of the media company at which Cantor was going to work this summer, called to try and intervene while Cantor was being detained, the customs agent told him that Chip should have lied to the customs agent, adding, “A Jewish kid would find that easy,” Shilling told the Jewish Chronicle.

On top of that, the JP has this at the end:

UPDATE: The following was received from a British Embassy spokesperson: The Home Office expects the highest levels of integrity and behaviour from all our staff. Any complaints of discrimination will be fully investigated.

45 posted on 07/04/2013 4:35:55 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“I’ve been told to use a duplicate passport if traveling to Israel to avoid this kind of thing. Apparently this happens all the time in several countries.

It’s been a common issue for many years to ask for an off-passport visa stamping on arriving in Israel, if you know you later have to travel to ARAB MUSLIM countries. (I did it when visiting Israel and then Egypt decades ago).


46 posted on 07/04/2013 4:39:29 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Winniesboy; PAR35
He wasn't coming to work for pay / take a job from one of their precious muslims / albanians:

"Cantor said he was traveling to the U.K. for an internship and to raise money for a child who wanted to go to Walt Disney World.

http://www.kmbc.com/news/kansas-city/leawood-student-turned-away-at-british-customs-checkpoint/-/11664182/20423774/-/item/1/-/12o3tt6/-/index.html

47 posted on 07/04/2013 4:43:50 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Yehuda
After Chuck spoke to Yeomans, he contacted Kevin Shilling, his managing director and owner of Shilling Communications, the British company where Chip was supposed to be employed for the summer.

per the israelnationalnews.com website.

48 posted on 07/04/2013 8:03:48 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Right, ‘cause I’ll bet you’re a big fan and regular reader of INN.

/s

Get a grip; he was to be “employed” as an INTERN...

And at this point, who gives a flying F if he and/or the employer didn’t do the paperwork correctly.

The takeaway here on FR is that your attitude towards an American Jew discriminated against by some official “asian” UK scum (for having Israel visa stamps in his passport) is not much different than the acts of the sharia-immigration goons at the airport.

They had some cunning stunt in a burka take his pic, and said “the little Jew will be on his way back to his rich daddy,” and that “A Jewish kid would find that [lying] easy,”; your first response was “[he’s] now playing the race card in the best Al Sharpton tradition.”

WHAT A SHOCK.

Stinkin’ Jews can’t get a break either way.

/smh...


49 posted on 07/04/2013 10:33:17 PM PDT by Yehuda
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50 posted on 07/05/2013 10:50:54 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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