Posted on 07/04/2013 7:32:01 AM PDT by blam
“one nation,under surveillance with Obamacare and EBT for all” .
Most pupils today can’t learn or won’t bother to learn excerpts from the Declaration of Independence. It has little meaning to them.
“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance,” reads one of Jefferson’s indictments against the king. An early American description of the monstrous govt we the people now live under---capable of extraordinary crimes against it s people.
<><> there's Benghazi
<><> state dept's coverup of sex scandals---obstructing justice---scrubbing investigations
<><> Holder's DOJ (labeling journo Rosen a criminal--monitoring AP, and USSC and Congress' Verizon blackberries)
<><> IRS targeting inoocents (enraging legions of IRS haters)
<><> IRS stealing 60 million private medical records
<><> HHS' Sibelius strong-arming Obamacare insurance providers for money
<><> NSA snooping---infuriating millions of young twitter/facebook users
<><> IRS sending $45 Million/that's 32,000 EITC refunds to illegals at ONE address.
<><> Letting Snowden globe-trot w/ US secrets
<><> EPA using phantom email accounts
<><> Fast and Furious gun-running; savage drug cartels kill two American border patrol agents
<><> Ohaha giving 5 million henchmen top security clearance---w/ no oversight WRT Ntl security implications
<><> govt wiretaps rose 71% last year alone
<><> O using drones to shoot down Americans
<><> monstrous TSA travesties.
<><> Solyndra and other green money-laundries
<><> sucking up to gays and other predator/perverts
<><> forcing the Boy Scouts to admit gays.
<><> vile Ohahacare--the tyrant forced to delay one onerous provision.
“What difference does it make?” - Hillary Clinton
” I am not, nor ever hsve been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races...” Abe Lincoln in his fourth debate with Stephen Douglas in 1858.
“If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission and offer my sword to the other side.” Ulysses Grant
“Southern soldiers argued that the legacy of the Founding Fathers was not so much the Union as the principle of self-government.” The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History by Thomas E. Woods, Jr., Phd
Mr. DiLorenzo is not an historian. His version of US history is phony as a three dollar bill.
Oh, how can this be? I’ve gotten in many an argument with FReepers who tell me that states simply can’t withdraw from the Union, because it is indivisible. One of them even tried to assert that we might be able to secede, but only if we got Congressional approval first!
Ok, but are you disputing the historical documents cited in the article, the author’s interpretation of them, or do you just not like the guy in general, rather than something about this piece specifically?
I am not disputing that pro-secession editorials appeared in Democrat newspapers. That does change the fact that the Founding Fathers and the early Presidents all considered unilateral secession treason. None of those men were Jews or Republicans, by the way, despite Democrat Klansman DiLorenzo’s ranting against “neo-cons” and Republicans.
Well I certainly wouldn’t try the murderous approach that the confeds tried.
Highly unlikely Grant ever said this. For one thing, its grandiloquence was not in his character.
Whatever else you may say about the man, he wasn't flashy.
True enough. But since SC was holding well over 50% of "the governed" in chattel bondage, it's unlikely they "consented."
I have a book entitled “The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History” by Thomas E. Woods Jr., Ph.D. I copied that quote from that book. If you know anything negative about the author or the book please let me know as I use the information in it.
Side note: On a TV show this AM it depicted Grant as a drunk, and quoted Lincoln as asking what he drank so he could give it to the rest of the Union army, because Grant was winning.
I’ve done a fair amount of research on Grant’s drinking. Several things became fairly clear.
Grant throughout his life had a real problem with alcohol. Not with constant drinking, but stopping once he got started. IOW, he was a binge drinker. He tended to drink when he was bored or unhappy, especially when away from his wife, who he adored.
His enemies used his past history of drinking as a cudgel against him during the war. Lincoln specifically sent a semi-undercover operative, Charles Dana, out to hang with Grant’s army to find out the facts. Dana said there was no truth to it and became a big fan of Grant.
There is no solid evidence of Grant ever being incapable or impaired by alcohol during a battle or other important event.
Don’t know anything about the book specifically, but any book with that title is by definition looking for controversial stuff to include.
If you’re going to use this as a quote from Grant, imo you should have a contemporary source, not just a recently published book.
I’ve read other things Grant did say about slavery, and basically it was that he didn’t care one way or the other.
FWIW, before the war, when he was in dire financial straits, Grant freed the only slave he ever personally owned. To put this into some perspective, freeing him rather than selling him was the rough equivalent of giving up a year or more of income.
In fairness, the TV show did say that Grant was drinking more because he missed his wife and young child.
Send a barrel of it to all my generals.....A Lincoln.
Murderous? Voting to secede via the state legislatures is murderous how?
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