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Doris Kearns Goodwin at Gettysburg: A Few Inappropriate Remarks
Breitbart.com ^ | July 1, 2013 | Tony Lee

Posted on 07/02/2013 6:44:11 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

On Sunday, a stunned audience sat in silence as Doris Kearns Goodwin turned the keynote address at the opening ceremony for the 150th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg into a political lecture focusing on women's and gay rights.

Missing from much of her keynote: Gettysburg.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appallingdems; democrat; democrats; gay; gettysburg; goodwin; historians; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; lgbt; nationalparkservice; nps; obama; radicalleft
Tin ear alert!
1 posted on 07/02/2013 6:44:11 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

To be fair, someone should have explained to the ditz that they were celebrating the 150th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg. She probably didn’t have a clue what the hell she was doing there.


2 posted on 07/02/2013 6:47:08 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Former member of the GOP useful idiot voter base.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Almost all of my reading is in the non-fiction/history area. I have never read one of this idiot’s books and do not intend to.


3 posted on 07/02/2013 6:48:57 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“She probably didn’t have a clue what the hell she was doing there.”

Of course she did. She was picking up a paycheck.


4 posted on 07/02/2013 6:52:01 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
It was probably Spielberg's suggestion---he based his 'Lincoln' film on her book Team of Rivals, and was in town a few months back giving a speech of his own. He's tied in thick with the Gettysburg history crowd.
5 posted on 07/02/2013 6:52:26 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
Plagiarist harpy...
6 posted on 07/02/2013 6:54:06 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Timber Rattler

This is what she was hired to do. DKG is not a civil war historian so why else was she picked to do the keynote? Her political views and celebrity.


7 posted on 07/02/2013 6:54:07 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Timber Rattler

Why don’t people just boo dumb asses like this off the stage?


8 posted on 07/02/2013 6:55:08 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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To: Timber Rattler
I went to a funeral for a fairly influential... well, let's just say "a member of the academic community." His wife is extremely liberal (she made her husband look conservative by comparison).

At two points during her eulogy for her husband - in front of roughly 150 mourners - she absent-mindedly allowed herself to stray off the topic of the day onto left-wing politics. She simply could not help herself.

In each case, she caught herself after a few seconds and got back to the subject of her deceased husband, and his life and times.

I'm not sure, but I think one of her children - seated in the front row, where I couldn't see them) may have given her some kind of signal to keep politics out of it.

9 posted on 07/02/2013 6:55:20 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Whomever scheduled her and paid her to stand at the podium and make love to herself is the one to point the finger at.

Liberalism is a mental disorder marked by the obsessive need to self congratulate to the point of open masturbatory acts - Doris K. Goodwin

10 posted on 07/02/2013 6:55:59 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Timber Rattler

The whole world is celebrating sodomy. Nuts.


11 posted on 07/02/2013 6:56:00 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Timber Rattler

Well what did they expect her to say? Sheesh, who chose her to do the keynote, anyway? Should have treated her like a valedictorian - reviewed remarks and cut the mic when she strayed.


12 posted on 07/02/2013 6:57:26 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: Timber Rattler

How much of her speech was Spielbergs?


13 posted on 07/02/2013 6:59:35 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: circlecity
DKG is not a civil war historian so why else was she picked to do the keynote?

Actually, she is, sort of...


14 posted on 07/02/2013 7:00:08 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
She probably didn’t have a clue what the hell she was doing there.

She was drawing a big paycheck. What more did she need to know?

15 posted on 07/02/2013 7:01:00 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Timber Rattler

History Channel REALLY pushed her talk. I started to listen, then turjned the witch off. As a Civil War Student and History Buff, her talk was insulting to the place, the occasion and the men who suffered and died there.

I’ll never waste my money on one of her books.


16 posted on 07/02/2013 7:01:23 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: atc23

“Whomever scheduled her and paid her to stand at the podium and make love to herself is the one to point the finger at.”

THAT is an excellent point.

Although DKG did write “Team Of Rivals” and yes, she is a historian, I just don’t see her as being the right fit for a presentation like this.

Perhaps it would have been wise if the people sponsoring the event had asked DKG if they could see her speech BEFORE she gave it. I know that if I were the one to have reviewed it, I would have looked at her (or her staffer) and said “Seriously? A historian of your caliber and THIS is the speech you’re gonna give?! Absolutely not! Re-do it or consider yourself cancelled from giving this speech. People are here to hear about Gettysburg - not about gay rights and whatever else is passing thru your mind at the moment”.


17 posted on 07/02/2013 7:06:02 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: ZULU

Yep, it seemed that her audience was not sure what to think about her self-centered gibberish. They knew that she’s famous for something concerning the Civil War, but knew that a lecture on gay and women’s rights is not what they bought tickets for.


18 posted on 07/02/2013 7:07:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

She dishonored all those who rest there. I don’t have profanity adequate to describe my thoughts about this vermin.


19 posted on 07/02/2013 7:08:18 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Timber Rattler

She is an historian but wasn’t she fired for plagiarizing?


20 posted on 07/02/2013 7:10:16 AM PDT by edcoil ("The cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek." Joseph Campbell)
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To: Timber Rattler


Doris Kearns Goodwin, Liar
First she plagiarized. Then she claimed it wasn't plagiarism.

http://mobile.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2002/01/doris_kearns_goodwin_liar.html


21 posted on 07/02/2013 7:11:20 AM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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To: 0.E.O

Why sit here in an e4cho chamber? I am going to make it a point to call liberals stupid in the middle of a completely irrelevant conversation. Why fight fair?


22 posted on 07/02/2013 7:15:48 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
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To: MplsSteve

“Although DKG did write “Team Of Rivals” and yes, she is a historian, I just don’t see her as being the right fit for a presentation like this.”

I remember this incompetant “presidential historian” during the KKKlinton impeachment saying (several times) that even though Andrew Jackson was impeached he was still on the $20 bill. Of course it was Andrew JOHNSON who was impeached.

“A historian of your caliber and THIS is the speech you’re gonna give?!”

As a historian her caliber is equivalent to the 22 velo dog.


23 posted on 07/02/2013 7:18:07 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: Timber Rattler

That book was about Washington politics during the period of the civil war, not a history of the civil war itself and certainly not about the battle of Gettysburg. Stephen Spears would have made a much better keynote speaker. His the perhaps the most preimmenent historian on the eastern theater of the Civil War.


24 posted on 07/02/2013 7:18:32 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

In what would have been my speech to DKG, the use of the word “caliber” would have been used for flattery only. I am certainly aware of her checkered past. I would not have used the word with any sincerity.


25 posted on 07/02/2013 7:20:00 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: circlecity
Hey, I agree with you, and can't stand the woman ether. But she was invited because of Spielberg and her Lincoln book.

And you're right, they would have done much better by inviting Searss to do the keynote.

26 posted on 07/02/2013 7:21:41 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: circlecity
Stephen Spears would have made a much better keynote speaker. His the perhaps the most preimmenent historian on the eastern theater of the Civil War.

Noah Andre Trudeau came out with a book on Gettysburg about the same time as Sears did, and I think his is a little bit better. Regardless, either one would have done a better job than Goodwin.

27 posted on 07/02/2013 7:26:50 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: circlecity
Stephen Spears would have made a much better keynote speaker. His the perhaps the most preimmenent historian on the eastern theater of the Civil War.

Noah Andre Trudeau came out with a book on Gettysburg about the same time as Sears did, and I think his is a little bit better. Regardless, either one would have done a better job than Goodwin.

28 posted on 07/02/2013 7:26:54 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Goodwin probably was misdirected and lost since she relies heavily upon plagiarized material for her books and writings.Since she is a liberal Democrat she gets a pass upon her unethical writing credits.
29 posted on 07/02/2013 7:39:32 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Timber Rattler
I watched the whole Gettysburg coverage on C-SPAN 3, but when she started her rambling speech (almost without taking breaths) about her love affair with all the things that DID NOT apply to this solemn historic occasion (LBJ, etc., etc., etc.) I shut her off. What a horrible disgusting way to end what had been a wonderful overview of a major Civil War battle. Lest anyone forget, it WAS the Democrat Party that wanted slavery to live on. To the persons involved in inviting her to speak, I say "screw you!"
30 posted on 07/02/2013 7:44:23 AM PDT by CORYDON
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To: 0.E.O
"Noah Andre Trudeau came out with a book on Gettysburg about the same time as Sears did, and I think his is a little bit better. Regardless, either one would have done a better job than Goodwin."

Trudeau's book was excellent especially with regard to the first day. I think it would appeal more to the hard core CW buff though as it is incredibily detailed and the average history fan might find it a bit tedious to slog through. There is another historian named "Rhea" who has an excellent series on the battles which made up Grant's Overland Campaign.

31 posted on 07/02/2013 7:45:38 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Timber Rattler
Most liberal’s speeches are truly awful. I once attended a graduation ceremony at Boston College were Cokie Roberts gave the commencement speech. It was mostly inappropriate, boring and at sometimes insulting and self serving. You see liberals live within speech codes and topics deemed inapropriate and pre-approved subjects. Their whole world is group think or whatever the New York Times editorial board said. They can’t think or speak off the cuff as they may offend their leaders and be outcast (especially if they come from a “privillaged” class). They also don’t truly believe in a lot of what they say. They are mostly college freshman or phd candidates writing a composition to impress the proffesor gods. Goodwin just re-hashed her old speeches that were deemed acceptable by the p.c. crowd since she obviously didn’t prepare for this engagement.
32 posted on 07/02/2013 7:47:09 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Timber Rattler

She is *not* a historian. She is a “historical writer”, which basically means “more or less historical fiction”. In addition, she is a known plagiarist and decided radical liberal.

Whoever invited her to speak at the Gettysburg anniversary has Lucky Charms for brains. They might as well have invited “Reverend” Louis Farrakhan or Medea Benjamin of Code Pink.


33 posted on 07/02/2013 7:52:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Timber Rattler

Why was she invited and who invited her?


34 posted on 07/02/2013 8:07:58 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Sans-Culotte

She once wrote a book about growing up a Brooklyn Dodgers’s fan living in Rockville Centre NY. Mike Francesca and Mad Dog Russo spent one four hour show highlighting the countless errors, mistake, and misrepresentations they found in a perusing of her work.She has been working on a bio of TR and said she was very surprised and disturbed to find that her progressive hero was a racist and an imperialist. Duuuhhh!


35 posted on 07/02/2013 8:11:05 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Sans-Culotte
Almost all of my reading is in the non-fiction/history area. I have never read one of this idiot’s books and do not intend to.

Does somebody still publish her? She's a known plagiarist.

36 posted on 07/02/2013 8:11:24 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Timber Rattler

DKG is a plagiarist and Lincoln idolator. The Lincoln idolator part will carry a so called “historian” far in this country.


37 posted on 07/02/2013 8:18:14 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: xkaydet65
I believe Stephen (Band of Brothers) Ambrose was also found to be a plagiarist on the level of DKG.

Speaking of TR, I read the first two volumes of Edmund Morris' massive (one is tempted to say 'definitive') biography of Theodore Roosevelt. I didn't know all that much about TR before reading those volumes. At least I did not know as much as I thought I knew. The first volume (The rise of Theodore Roosevelt) was almost like reading an adventure story, dealing as it did with TR's struggles with poor health, his loss of his first wife and mother on the same day, his adventures in the Dakotas, the Spanish American War, etc. The second volume (Theodore Rex) dealt with his presidency. I was shocked to see how "progressive" TR eventually became. He basically "pulled a Rubio" in switching from conservative principles to progressive ones to the point he may as well have been William Jennings Bryan. I remember thinking as I read it: "thank God TR did not stand for another term". I need to pick up the third volume (Colonel Roosevelt) and read it soon.

38 posted on 07/02/2013 8:23:24 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Timber Rattler

Professor DORIS KEARNS GOODWIN was one of the 400 historians and academics that took out a full page add in
the NEW YORK TIMES that said a blow job is not an impeachable offense.

Why anyone with any shame or conscience or honor would listen to anything this b!tch would say is beyond me.

She spent the waning years of the last millennium hitting every news show she could protecting Slick Willie’s Willie.


39 posted on 07/02/2013 8:31:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

and, according to Sally Quinn, alleged LBJ dance partner..


40 posted on 07/02/2013 9:03:03 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Timber Rattler

I was at the commemoration. It was to say the least a very uncomfortable time. She barely mentioned Lincoln or Gettysburg, but talked almost exclusively about her other three books. It was JFK and LBJ who were the movers of the modern civil rights movement. The only reason the republicans and Everret Dirkson went along was because LBJ bribed him with political perks. She talked about how she and Hillary Clinton went looking around the white house at 2 am looking to find the room that Winston Churchill slept in. Barely a word about Gettysburg, barely a word about Lincoln. At the end of it there was a smattering of applause. I sat on my hands as did the person next to me. I asked him what he thought of the speech and he said one word “obnoxious”. Then he added. I guess according to her, only democrats do good things for the country.


41 posted on 07/02/2013 9:20:33 AM PDT by PaulZe
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To: atc23

More than likely the National Park Service invited her. There’s a video on C-Span that has a backdrop on the stage with logos of the Gettysburg Foundation, and the National Park Service. The lectern has the Park Service sign on it.


42 posted on 07/02/2013 9:23:19 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: 0.E.O

Not to toot my own horn, but I met Trudeau several years ago. He was doing research for a book on the 55th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry. He’d heard I had done extensive research on the unit. I provided him unlimited access to my records, and in return, he gave me a very nice acknowledgement in the book: “Voices of the 55th,” and had the publisher send me several copies. I’ve shared my research with a few other authors over the years. It’s a good way to get an acknowledgement in the book, and an autographed copy to boot.


43 posted on 07/02/2013 9:36:32 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

I’ve enjoyed both his book on Gettysburg as well as his book on Sheman’s campaign through Georgia. I’ll have to look up his book on the 55th.


44 posted on 07/02/2013 10:00:42 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: circlecity

The author is Gordon C Rhea. He wrote “The Battle of The Wilderness, May 5-6, 1864” it was published in 1994.

Until I read the book, I knew little about the Battle of the Wilderness. Rhea’s book was top notch. Incredibly detailed and yet it never seemed to bog down in minutiae.


45 posted on 07/02/2013 10:19:02 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Timber Rattler

Can you image what Shelby Foote would have said after her speech.


46 posted on 07/02/2013 10:23:18 AM PDT by mware
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To: MplsSteve

If you liked Rhea’s work on the battle of the Wilderness then you’d love his book on Spottsylvania Courthouse, the very next battle. I thought it was even better although both are excellent.


47 posted on 07/02/2013 10:24:23 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: mware
Can you image what Shelby Foote would have said after her speech.

Oooh. I would have run for cover :-) No, I'm sure he would have been a complete gentleman about it, no matter how much he was seething inside ... maybe along the lines of "well, bless her heart," or something.

48 posted on 07/02/2013 11:59:01 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I never read Morris’ first volume. I thought volume 2 was great and volume 3 will allow you to see what a full blown progressive and global interventionist TR had become. Vol 3 highlights his hatred of Wilson and Wilson’s hatred of TR. But the two were peas in the same pod, though Wilson ascribed his fascist ideas to his idealistic visions while TR was less visionary and more pragmatic. Both men were clear precursors of Fascism. And one thing that must be emphasized, and the cover art of Jonah Goldberg’s great work failed to do this, is separate fascism from Nazism. If we can do that, we can clearly point to the fascistic goals of progressives then and now and not be sidetracked by complaints that we are equating Democrats with death camps.


49 posted on 07/02/2013 1:12:04 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If I was given a subject to write a paper on or give a speech about in college and instead went on a bunch of personal, social and political tangents while barely mentioning my subject I would get a massive F for that assignment and probably get dressed down by my professor.


50 posted on 07/04/2013 11:55:56 AM PDT by BigWillyG
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