Posted on 07/02/2013 4:05:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
The last line sounds logical but it is the antithesis to the career minded Republican Establishment. With the GOPe becoming more kindred to the Democrats with each passing day, I say bring on the Freedom party and let the games begin.
Young Americans, like young Brits, want to choose their future. Republicans should argue their policies enable them to do so.
A government can only be powerful enough to "solve problems" when it is powerful enough to control every aspect of your life. And when it has the power to dictate how you will live, its priority isn't solving problems. This is a message the GOP needs to hammer.
Of course, my above statement assumes that government is actually able to solve problems. In reality, most problems are outside of the scope of government, and those that government can do something about--e.g. regulations limiting air pollution--it's already done.
Gosh. Logic. Won’t go over well here.
At the risk of being flamed until i resemble some 4th of July feast i agree that (with the exception of abortion)we need to separate religion and politics.
Gay marriage? Who cares. Its personal. So long as churches are not being told to perform ceremonies who cares? This is a religious issue and not political. We pick up every last ticking bomb like the Roadrunner in Bugs Bunny cartoons and stare at it dumbfounded until it blows up in our faces.
Are you sure you're on the right forum?
Boris Johnson... conservative... libertarian...
The man is a statist, just like most of the dusty political class. Farage is the only viable alternative at this point.
Looks like the future in the UK and USA will be more like Nazi Germany than anything else—the state will rule over everything—we saw how well that worked out.
> “gay marriage. who cares?”
Who cares?
Anybody whose gets arrested for “hate speech” for saying homosexuality is wrong, thereby being identified as one of the, in Justice Kennedy’s words, “enemies of humanity”.
Anybody who doesn’t want his elementary, middle and high school children to sit through hours of indoctrination every week, leaning about the joys and techniques of homosexual sex.
Anybody who has a business catering to weddings that doesn’t want to participate in “celebrating” LBGTX*&^%$@!# diversity.
Anybody who wants his children to be able to use a public restroom without seeing some “transgendered” person with the wrong plumbing with them in the bathroom.
Anybody who wants to be able to walk down the street without encountering yet another of the innumerable, insufferable, “gay pride” events, complete with nudity and homosexual acts performed in the open.
Anybody who wants to defend his children from exposure to things that are inappropriate for their respective ages.
It's much more than that as long as government issues licenses.
If the government quit controlling marriage through licensing, I'd agree that it is a personal matter. Now it is much more.
Example: Bob dumps his wife and two kids to marry Chad. Bob and Chad as a married couple now fight for custody of the kids. Who wins that dispute in today's PC world?
And now that gay marriage it legal, the Supreme Court will have to twist itself into a pretzel to deny legal status to polygamy...a tradition that has been around for thousands of years.
Example: Bob, Chad, Brenda, and Sue marry each other. Between them, they have five kids. Brenda gets a divorce and marries Linda. Who gets custody of the kids? How is property divided?
After polygamy, comes marriage to 12-year-olds. This was extremely common just a century ago in the United States and still occurs in many places around the world. If gay marriage and polygamy are okay, surely the tradition of marrying young "women" who have hit puberty will be recognized by the Supreme Court as being legal too.
Absurd?
Not based on the legal reasoning behind legalization of gay marriage.
In other words, it is far from just a personal issue. Whether you support gay marriage or not, the government's role licensing all marriages has gone a long way to destroying the institution.
Yep. I was just on a Zimmerman thread and people were debating biblical phrases in conjunction with a statement Zimmerman made to the police. Why? We seriously need to take politics and religion and put them in different corners.
You know i can 100% agree that the government need not issue licenses. But thats simply what we all know to be true and that is the government is too big and over reaches into whatever aspect of our lives it possibly can. What is the NSA snooping but another facet of that?
The only future RINO elites are concerned about are their own miserale careers for the next year or two. They’ll worry about the collapse later.
Monty Python started sarcastically ripping British Big Gov to shreds in 1969.
The half-life of Big Gov with voters then sadly appears to be FORTY FRIGGIN YEARS!!
I pulled the lever for McCaine in 2008 and felt like I needed a shower afterwards. In 2012 I had to take a barf bag into the booth with me while I pulled the lever for Romney. I'm sick of this GOP BS of sticking a knife in all the conservatives then demanding they turn around and support their hand picked RINOs. Given an alternative of voting for a no good rotten RINO or voting for a 3rd party with a genuine conservative I know how I'd go next time.
The argument is that a 3rd party can't win. Well the GOP isn't winning either. And without conservatives they won't win locally either. If the conservatives who they are so embarrassed by bolted the GOP would cease as a party within a decade. Then we could begin to fix this nation finally.
Probably because the UK media still enjoys making public spectacles of those who are sponging off the government for life = while the US media treats them as saintly victims of the evils of capitalism.
You shouldn’t, no one should, be blaming the GOP/GOPe for candidates like McCain and Romney.
The problem is with Conservatives. We don’t consolidate quickly enough behind an acceptable Conservative candidate, allowing RINOs to win the nomination with a plurality. Prior to passing the delegate threshold for the nomination did Romney ever break 50%? And how often did he even break 40%?
as long as these homos stay away from me and my family, i don’t give two what they (or anyone else) do in their own home
Big Difference, British youth are still mostly white, not so here in America
Do you consider yourself a Republican or a Libertarian? Strict Libertarians do not like to mix politics with morality/religion. However, many people who call themselves Libertarians are not necessarily amoral.
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