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(update) Outcry over ABC bust of UVa student grows
Daily Progress ^ | July 1,2013 | K Burnell Evans

Posted on 07/01/2013 8:12:44 PM PDT by Drango

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To: riverdawg

Seriously, a UVA sorority girl probably isn’t aware that ABC is a branch of law enforcement. ABC has nothing to do with fashion or jewelry. I only know it because I used to work in a bar.
I’m a fraternity adviser. I know of what I speak.

My daughter at college this year : “It was so cold today, the sorority girls were wearing pants.”


41 posted on 07/02/2013 6:17:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy
” ... a UVA sorority girl probably isn’t aware that ABC is a branch of law enforcement.”

And that's precisely the problem. Too many government agencies have poorly trained “agents” with law-enforcement powers. If an ABC investigator wants to make an arrest, he or she should have to call a uniformed police officer. The Charlottesville PO who finally arrived on the scene was the only one who behaved like a responsible adult.

42 posted on 07/02/2013 6:25:13 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Drango

I have to admire the candor of the ABC spokeswoman:

“Because of the public outcry, they’re reviewing the facts of the case again to make sure nothing happened,” said agency spokeswoman Maureen Haney.

In other words,

1. ... if there there had not been a huge public outcry, with the Governor’s office getting involved, we would have not reviewed the incident.

2. ... our review will confirm that “nothing happened.”


43 posted on 07/02/2013 6:47:48 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: apoliticalone
Those who cross over the line need to be held accountable.

The only accountability comes from us - at the ballot box.

Alas, the political enablers of these types of police practices all too often won their offices by appealing to conservatives as being "tough on crime."

44 posted on 07/02/2013 7:15:42 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Drango

Just curious: Are these “cops” rejects from ATF?


45 posted on 07/02/2013 8:19:49 AM PDT by Peet (Come back with a warrant.)
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To: y'all

This incident is getting a lot of press coverage. . .

http://news.google.com/news?ncl=dNNwuhtnQApvBkMXX-bDXjbbFDSeM&q=virginia+abc&lr=English&hl=en


46 posted on 07/02/2013 9:37:11 AM PDT by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: rockrr
There are some Keystone kops that are going to get killed - or kill someone - over this nonsense.

Late at night, a group of men approaching a woman WILL frighten her. There will come a point where they scare a CCW into thinking he's being mugged.

47 posted on 07/02/2013 9:40:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: bigbob
"Even if it had been beer, is beer illegal? How would they have known if she was underage?"

Stores checked my ID until I was in my mid to late 40's. I assume they still do check IDs.

48 posted on 07/02/2013 10:28:04 AM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: uncommonsense
“I assume they still do check IDs.”

I’m certain that the Harris Teeter in this article checks the IDs of everyone who looks under 30. Virginia ABC conducts stings using older-looking but underage (18-20) buyers. If a store sells to an underage kid, the store risks losing its alcohol sales license for 25 days and/or paying a $2000-5000 civil penalty.

49 posted on 07/02/2013 12:02:39 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Drango

This hysteria over booze is beyond...........I don’t have a noun or adjective.


50 posted on 07/02/2013 4:27:06 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: uncommonsense
Stores checked my ID until I was in my mid to late 40's. I assume they still do check IDs.

They still check mine and I'm 61 and look every minute of it.

I was recently refused service because they couldn't read the expiration date to see if it was "valid"

I had an easier time buying booze when I was in High School.

51 posted on 07/02/2013 4:30:53 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: vaudine
Six or seven agents? Wasn't that overkill? And aren't there any real lawbreakers to hassle?

Nope, the object is to convert everyone into some sort of criminal so they have control over you for the rest of your life.

52 posted on 07/02/2013 4:33:55 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: riverdawg
If an ABC investigator wants to make an arrest, he or she should have to call a uniformed police officer.

Good luck with that notion. Cops don't dress like cops or drive marked cop cars anymore.

53 posted on 07/02/2013 4:36:15 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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No wonder the ABC agents charged her with 3 felonies... they thought she bought Colt .45


54 posted on 07/02/2013 5:18:47 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Thank you. Thank you. I’ll be here all week.


55 posted on 07/02/2013 5:54:23 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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