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To: wideawake
One day a so-called "conservative" supporter of Snowden will take a step back and rationally examine what Snowden has done.

Nobody is actually reading any articles about Snowden, they just read headlines (and maybe the odd clueless ranting blogger) and go on rants.

And people are basically studiously ignoring that it's now apparent that most of what Snowden took deals with NSA spying on foreigners. To acknowledge that would destroy their hero-worship.

44 posted on 07/01/2013 8:58:18 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

“And people are basically studiously ignoring that it’s now apparent that most of what Snowden took deals with NSA spying on foreigners. To acknowledge that would destroy their hero-worship.”

Snowden is a totally separate issue from the disclosure that the NSA is colonoscopically collecting what EVERY American does.

To turn your argument around on you - to make it more appropriate - People are using Snowden to divert attention from the real issue that NSA is building files on every American as if they were criminals and only pretending that there are safeguards in place to make sure - To quote GWB: “one of the certainties is civil liberties were guaranteed”

I think this has already been proven a lie. The DNI already is a proven liar.

So who do you believe? A government bureaucracy that has been caught pathologically and voyeuristic-ally staring into every Americans private life and is in fear of it’s continued funding, or do we believe what they’ve been forced to admit under duress.

If the NSA had stopped at collecting intel on foreigners and Americans for whom they have a warrant to spy on, they wouldn’t be in this mess, would they?

Snowden will eventually face justice. Fine with me. But that doesn’t mean the NSA should not be forced to open their files so every American can examine the dossier gathered on them. I’m thinking that would be a cathartic experience for freedom loving Americans, from which the NSA would not survive intact.

I don’t believe GWB or the NSA on this matter.


123 posted on 07/01/2013 10:15:43 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Strategerist
Nobody is actually reading any articles about Snowden, they just read headlines (and maybe the odd clueless ranting blogger) and go on rants.

Like what articles, the hit and run smear jobs at establishment hack sites like townhall? I swear this is turning into Stockholm syndrome writ large. With everything since the boston bombing to AP bugging and now Snowden the amount of big government worship is a bit disappointing.

126 posted on 07/01/2013 10:21:14 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Strategerist

Nobody is actually reading any articles about Snowden, they just read headlines (and maybe the odd clueless ranting blogger) and go on rants.
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Indeed. That is my major complaint about 90% of the posters to the Snowden threads. What happens is that “speculation” quickly morphs into “it is obviously true and if you don’t believe it then you are a traitor”. The actual facts are left on the floor.


199 posted on 07/01/2013 4:12:23 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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