Posted on 07/01/2013 7:02:57 AM PDT by Resettozero
(CNSNews.com) - Joking that he was "moved almost to the point of tears by Sen. (Chuck) Schumer's concern for the future prospects of the Republican Party," Rep. Trey Gowdy said on Sunday the immigration bill passed by the Senate is dead on arrival in the House:
"The Senate bill is not going to pass in the House. It's not going to pass for myriad reasons," Gowdy told "Fox News Sunday."
(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...
We offer more "rights" and benies to illegals than we do to our own citizens and service members.
I am in Florida, not SC.
If Mr. Gowdy’s words please you, then that is your business.
His words mean nothing to me, and now I see he wants to do something on amnesty, and that pisses me off.
You are certainly free to support him as you see fit, and I am free to not support any of them as I see fit. As far as I can see, all they have done is aid the democrats in destroying my country, and I cannot support that.
The GOP means nothing to me outside of “enemy”.
Sheesh.
Never confuse lack of motion with lack of action.
” Like the Senate RINOs he wanted to indicate that citizenship was OK with him. This is worrisome. It is like they are all scared to oppose that in public,. “
NOT good!
” “ Virtually everyone agrees on the broad principles. Where we get ourselves into a little bit of a difference of opinion are the details.....So, you can agree in theory on border security but disagree very strongly on how it’s achieved. You can agree on a path to legalization or citizenship. But whether border security is a condition precedent, which it would be in my case, is a very important distinction”
No-one opposed to giving illeagsl the vote would say that. This is exactly what Rubio was saying. “
Yep. Just more BS verbiage.
I trust neither.
I would prefer if all buildings they occupy were left empty for the rest of time.
I do understand your sheesh.
Yes I am harsh. Speaking for myself the deal is broken, the contract has been breeched and I no longer give my consent.
There may well be no fixing this either. I cannot trust liars, and I have no way of distinguish those who lie from those who don’t, and it is a risky assumption on my part that there are even those who don’t.
So far the House Judiciary Committee seems to insist that no path-to-citizenship be in the House immigration bills. Gowdy is on that committee.
However,
1) Boehner/Cantor/Ryan, at some point, could decide they like a path-to-citizenship and try to purge committees of those who don't play ball.
2) I don't like the fact that the House immigration bill is called "comprehensive" and I don't like the size of the bill (which I have heard would be a big lump composed of whatever immigration bills the House passes). Something that big would surely go to conference, where we would see Rubio, McCain and Goober, etc. again.
Thanks to Rubio’s cleverness and sweet talk and with help from many gullible on our side, we entering the red zone.
On one side I read all these comments : ‘No bill, do nothing House’
Then I see stuff like this
Regarding the most controversial provision of immigration legislation, he insisted that the “current legalization is not amnesty.” Ryan rejected the right’s complaints by pointing to a series of conditions undocumented immigrants must meet, including payment of fines and back taxes, and passing a criminal background check.
Amnesty is wiping the slate clean and forgetting any penalty that was once there,” he said. “Nobody is suggesting that takes place.”
Paul Ryan Sees House Passing 'Path to Citizenship' (12 Jun 2013 )
So they better be asked and NOT let off the hook when they reply with 'both meanings' answers.
” However,
1) Boehner/Cantor/Ryan, at some point, could decide they like a path-to-citizenship and try to purge committees of those who don’t play ball. “
We have discussed this over the past few weeks, and it is a real danger!
You have mail.
TY!
From post 26-
“From Greenville Online:
[regarding immigration, Gowdy says] “I think you have to find a synthesis between the humanity that I think defines us as a people, and the respect for the rule of law that defines us as a republic”...
Gowdy... says three images come to his mind when he considers immigration: Vietnamese fleeing Communism in the wheel wells of airplanes; Cubans dying on makeshift rafts off the Florida coast; and a woman from Sierra Leone whose hands were cut off because she tried to vote.
“Peoples’ desire to improve their lives resonates with me, no matter where they’re from,” Gowdy said.
...Gowdy said he expects to conduct his first few hearings as fact-finding missions to inform what he hopes will be a Republican-backed immigration reform bill...
...He disputes allegations that illegal immigrants are draining certain government services reserved for citizens, such as unemployment benefits and Social Security. Illegal immigrants don’t qualify for such benefits.
And the farmers and growers in his Upstate South Carolina district can’t find and keep American employees, so allowing immigrants to work here legally is essential, Gowdy said.
He said deporting all 11 million illegal immigrants would require government action that would “shock the conscience of some of the folks who are most forceful in arguing for it.”
“You want them knocking on your front door?” he said. “You want them going to elementary schools and rounding up the kids?”
...[He’s non-committal on amnesty right now, but regarding the “path to citizenship” says] “It would depend on what that path involved and depends on the factors you would immediately want to look at,” he said. “Law-abidingness, for one. And connection to the community. I’d also be curious as to how many of them desire citizenship.”
NO HOUSE BILL!! BLUE SLIP THE SENATE BILL!! STOP AMNESTY!!”
I don’t know if he is lying or telling the truth on this, but either way, I’m not happy about it at all.
In terms of listening to what he has said, I have heard it and I did like it, however words do not have any meaning to me any more.
I have heard enough from GOP. Now is the time for action. Speeches and remarks from this hearing or that hearing mean NOTHING. Do something about the tyranny of this government with the power we gave you, or that power will be taken from you.
The GOP, including Gowdy, has precious little time left.
If the action they choose to take is to reward illegals and yank the rug out from US citizens, then the GOP will be swept from power in about 1.5 years, and America will be finished.
I hear ya. But you quoted Ryan, not Gowdy. Show me reason to distrust Gowdy and I’ll consider it. While we wait, may I point out that Gowdy is still Gowdy and is not Ryan.
For sure, it’s outta whack. But I still prefer the form of government the framers provided for us and was maintained somewhat until fairly recent times.
Just because I wish to work within our system of government, does not mean I have to like any politician regardless their party. But, I like to pick and choose my representatives when I can. And I still choose Gowdy and am resisting any notion of throwing up my arms and sulking away.
I can understand that. Not everyone sees things the way I do.
I like the things that Gowdy has said recently on other subjects. It’s just that those things he said could just as easily be kabuki theater as they could be truth, but either way they do not amount to action.
I would tell you that if I lived in SC in his district, I would vote for him despite what I have said.
However I am not happy with his stance on immigration. I would advise him to back away and do nothing. All that is going on here is that the democrats are giving the GOP the political dagger that the GOP will use to stab itself in its political heart.
Don’t take the dagger. Don’t be stupid. GOP, you are rapidly running out of chances, and so is America.
The Senate bill completely ignores the interests of the rooted American population, not only the White European stocks, but the rooted Black population--whose youth can scarcely find employment--as well. Why is no one willing to address the realities of life, today? Because the Left has found that screaming insults, intimidates the vast majority of those in public life, who tiptoe on eggs, as it were, rather than defend actual American interests.
To anyone, who does not understand how the Left uses the concept of "Diversity" to undermine an American future.
William Flax
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