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To: carriage_hill
I started reading that pdf file and by the time it listed reasons for a breakdown in civility, it sounded like what I have written over and over. The authors of this book are considered “experts” - I am considered an “expert” by 33,502 hits on the prepper articles I write for Survival Podcast.

But, I am actually a failure in the minds of my son and two close relatives as they discount anything I say about prepping so I don't discuss it with them anymore - I would if they ask. I wonder if the “experts” who wrote this book are the same kind of failures in the minds of some close to them? I wonder if Kartographer is a failure with some of his family and close friends?

Our failure to be experts among family and close friends is as Mark Twain and Will Rogers explained experts:

Mark Twain defined an expert as “an ordinary fellow from another town”.

Will Rogers described an expert as “A man fifty miles from home with a briefcase.”

What Twain and Rogers stated is true and that's a sad fact. There are many people across this country who have printed every article I've written and put them in their emergency preparedness documents. My family members haven't read one thing I have written about prepping. I have not helped them one bit. I am too close to them for their consideration. If I had a different name and was from another location, they wouldn't have turned me completely off before reading at least one article. These family members know I'm really smart, smarter than they are, they will easily admit that, it's no big deal, but they stop right there, not wanting to know anything I know.

If you really know a subject, know more than most people about it, you could be considered an expert away from where you live but it's much more difficult to be considered an expert to the people who live around you and know you.

What about you? Have you encountered this problem in a field where you are an expert?

As for my family, I have stored extra for them but they don't know that. They see items stored in my house and have no idea what they are for and they never ask - they evidently don't want to know. My sister-in-law did ask one time, (only this time did she ask about anything), what a certain smallish box was for and I told her it was 100 gallons of good water. She ended up wanting one and I got it for her for Christmas.

Are you an expert about anything? Are you like Rodney Daingerfield (and me) - “I get no respect.” :o)

16 posted on 06/30/2013 12:41:43 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: Marcella

I’m well-prepped, thanks to you, Kart and dozens of others. Don’t worry about family; when TSHTF, they’ll realize what you’ve done and how brilliant you are, that you’re keeping them alive in the chaos and mayhem.

http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s607/Family_Farm/DCP_1285_zps16014aa0.jpg

Firearms and ammo, too.

http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s607/Family_Farm/DCP_0907a_zpse01f80b0.jpg

http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s607/Family_Farm/DCP_1406_zps031de4db.jpg

But my specialty is agriculture & horticulture, and widely-known & acknowledged. Sometimes, it’s a curse. Our Family Farm’s website, since ‘95, had 700 million hits before I took it offline on 11/11/11, when I closed, due to the economy and gov’t (EPA, DNR, DEP, Dept Int, Dept Ag, ACoE) unending rules, permits, fees, hearings, regs etc etc etc interference. They’ve devastated the ag & hort industries in America. I made it 22yrs, and lost an $8.5mm business, and quit.

You’re still doing good; don’t get discouraged or quit! I’m on the SP mail list and read it every week.


17 posted on 06/30/2013 1:30:02 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Marcella

PS - These are old pics from the Farm in Western PA; I’ve now moved to East York, and haven’t yet taken pics of the new arrangement in my Condo.


19 posted on 06/30/2013 1:34:55 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Marcella
I wonder if the “experts” who wrote this book are the same kind of failures in the minds of some close to them? I wonder if Kartographer is a failure with some of his family and close friends?

Mark 6:4

But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house

Happens all the time, and it has been going on for a long time.

21 posted on 06/30/2013 1:45:43 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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