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To: Nik Naym

Are you basically accusing me of “obsesing” about morality becaus I have my own moral failings? Sort of how homosexuals accuse those opposed to the homosexual agenda of struggling with their own homosexual feelings?

So you’re not okay with the LP pro-abortion position. How about their pro-homo agenda, pro-prostitution, pro-legalizing all drugs, pro-open borders issues?

And furthermore, as a “libertarian leaning conservative”, what’s your position on states having laws prohibiting those vices? Is that okay with you or not?


544 posted on 07/01/2013 8:01:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I didn’t accuse you of anything. But your reaction is interesting.

You seem to have missed that I am not OK with the “LP” at all.

I am not a one-worlder. Borders have nothing to do with freedom, so long as people are allowed to LEAVE at will. It is not necessary to allow foreigners to COME IN at will.

A free country allows anyone to leave. It does not have to allow anyone to come in. A legal process to be followed for immigration is sufficient. This does not mean “open borders” as you mean it.

“pro homo agenda” : Nope. I have stated here before that I think it is a psychiatric disorder. Those people need shrinks, not enablers. And they sure as hell don’t need special laws or rights not already afforded to others. I don’t obsess over homos, I do find this big push to normalize it troubling and not in the best interest of those who suffer from it. I don’t think it is right to abuse someone because they are mentally ill, and thus I don’t condone gay bashing/beating or anything of the sort. I do wish they would either get treatment or get back in the closet. But they don’t scare me, I don’t fear them.

Prostitution is to me morally reprehensible. We have to walk a fine line between protecting our society and protecting people’s freedom to do as they choose. This is a complicated subject and frankly I don’t have the answer. Personally, I take a “mind my own business” attitude towards it. (I never claimed to have all the answers and any one who does is a flat out liar.)

Drugs: If a drug is so outrageously harmful that a person can not control themselves once they have used it (IE: Meth, crack, etc.) then there is good reason to make them illegal. Because the people using them are not really acting of their own free will, they have been victimized by the seller of that drug. It is not anti-freedom to make it illegal to victimize people. However, I also think it is wrong and stupid to put people in jail for using pot (or whatever they call it these days). Nicotine is legal, caffeine is legal, alcohol is legal. Many drugs are legal already and there is no logic as to why some are legal and some others are not.

States having laws prohibiting vices: I am going to answer it this way: Strictly judging from the standpoint of liberty a law that is unjust at the federal level is unjust at the state level too. For example, if Roe V Wade suddenly went away, I would not support the State’s right to decide because abortion is wrong no matter where you are. As far anyone prohibiting “vices” I have already answered that question.

Anything else you would like to know about me? Why don’t you read my about page. Anything not answered there I will be glad to answer for you here in open forum.


548 posted on 07/01/2013 10:03:29 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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