WHY didn't the founders outlaw sodomy, etc., or even murder for that matter, in the Constitution? Do you think they would have thought it wrong for the states to do so? NO???? Then why do you accuse me of it?
The Libertarian party with a big L is an official party. However, libertarian principles are indeed, as Reagan said, at the heart of conservatism.
And yes, as I have stated, I would be happy if Roe v Wade was overturned and given back to the states. It would be a HELL OF A LOT BETTER than what we have now, and what we have now is because Americans went against libertarian principle of limited government and allowed the Federal governent to impose Roe v Wade. I hope abortion would become illegal in all states but unlike you I RESPECT what the Founders and the Constitution defined as limited government.
STOP demonizing libertarian principles because of what the Libertarian party has done.
Finny:
You assume that because I think the Founders DELIBERABELY refrained from using the Federal government to have laws against sodomy, prostitution, etc., that "such laws are wrong in [my] mind."
Reading comprehension problem? I ASKED you - there were several question marks - I sincerely want to know what you think, you still did not clearly answer me!
me:
So you think the laws against sodomy in all the states for 150 years were wrong? And that states should not be allowed to have such laws? How about abortion - should it be up to the states as well? How about pornography? Prostitution? There were laws against obscenity and prostituion in every state throughout most of our history, were such laws wrong in your mind?
See the several question marks? I was asking you questions. I know what the men who formed the Republic thought, obviously. I know what many libertarians think (that states also have no business making laws against vice). What I don't know is what you think about it, other than your statement above which sounds like other libertarians I've "debated" with:
Finny:
Because they understood that limited government is there to protect people's rights to DO things, not to prohibit people from indulging in moral failings.
When you can clearly articulate whether, in your libertarian view, the states have the right to make laws against vices like drugs, prostitution and sodomy, get back to me. Yea or nay. So far, more obfuscation as far as I'm cocerned. And you accuse me of emotional knee jerking. Sheesh. I clearly state my postion, I'm waiting for something clear from you; emtional accusations and lack of clarity about specifics are what I read from you. So far all I have is that abortion is a states' issue (is "regular" murder allowed in some states? Should it be? If not, why not?) and the phrase "libertarian principles". What are they?
THe same thing as the Libertarian Party platform or something different?