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To: wideawake

The folks who are against this practice in NYC describe a practice that sounds more random than a Terry stop — no “reasonable suspicion based on specific articulable facts” is present, so they say. That doesn’t mean they’re telling it like it is, though.


30 posted on 06/28/2013 10:15:39 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Flash Bazbeaux; Jack Black; randomhero97; green iguana
The NYPD, at any given time of day, have about 8,000 officers deployed to serve about 9mm people (about 8.3mm people live in the city, but there are at least 1mm commuters and tourists in the city on any given day).

The recipients of Terry stops may claim that they are random, the NYPD says they are not.

The numbers suggest that time and resources are not available for random searches - there are probably not enough police to make it through all the searches that have a reasonable basis, let alone inventing excuses for extra searches.

Anyone who has mastered grammar school math should be able to work this out.

The ACLU has been fighting against the NYPD doing systematic Terry stops since Giuliani was elected the first time.

After two decades of courts upholding the Constitutionality of NYPD procedures, Eric Holder has decided to intervene and take up the jihad against the NYPD.

32 posted on 06/29/2013 8:29:58 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
The folks who are against this practice in NYC describe a practice that sounds more random than a Terry stop — no “reasonable suspicion based on specific articulable facts” is present, so they say. That doesn’t mean they’re telling it like it is, though.

On a per capita basis, Holder's people are known to kill people at 10x the frequency of non-Hispanic whites. Would they lie? Nosirreebob - they're straight shooters, one and all. Stone killers some of them might be, but they draw the line at lying.

34 posted on 06/29/2013 12:37:23 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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