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Karl Rove: Here Are the 2 Tactical Fails That Cost Romney the Election
Atlantic ^ | 6/27/13 | GARANCE FRANKE-RUTA

Posted on 06/27/2013 4:10:10 PM PDT by jimbo123

The GOP strategist says he tried to signal to the Romney campaign that it should change course, but they didn't follow his lead.

A lot has been said about why Mitt Romney lost the presidential election, from his failure to turn out more white working-class voters to his failure to win more of the Latino voters who did turn out. Republican strategist Karl Rove offered the latest take Thursday in remarks detailing how he tried, from his perch at an outside group forbidden by law from coordinating with the campaign, to signal to Romney's team that they should make changes in course and defend their candidate more fiercely.

"No election can be blamed on one single thing ... that's not the way politics works," Rove said during an Aspen Ideas Festival conversation with Atlantic Editor in Chief James Bennet. At core, however, "This was a tactical failure."

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KEYWORDS: 2012; cronyconsultants; fail; karlrove; nomorerinos; rino; rnc; romney; romneycare; rove; thearchitect; tokyorove
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The Architect:

"If Romney had given me more of his millions to squander on ineffective advertising and crony consulting fees, he would have won."

What a worthless huckster.

1 posted on 06/27/2013 4:10:10 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

FUCR


2 posted on 06/27/2013 4:12:15 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: jimbo123

Who cares at this point?


3 posted on 06/27/2013 4:12:21 PM PDT by basil (basil --Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: jimbo123

Why still all this navel gazing? It is not like the GOP will learn from their mistakes.


4 posted on 06/27/2013 4:12:26 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: jimbo123
Tokyo out shuckin' and jivin' again.

Is it racist to say that?

5 posted on 06/27/2013 4:13:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed that one day pro wrestling would be less fake than network news?)
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To: jimbo123

Par for the course these days..


6 posted on 06/27/2013 4:13:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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To: jimbo123
The first rule of campaign club is do not listen to Karl Rove.

The second rule of campaign club is DO NOT LISTEN TO KARL ROVE!

7 posted on 06/27/2013 4:13:53 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: jimbo123

He lost mainly because the democrats beat the republicans in multivote voters, dead people voting, and cheating at the inner city polling places where Obama received 120% of the vote.

Rove is a left-wing republican.


8 posted on 06/27/2013 4:15:45 PM PDT by stockpirate (F. Douglass, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: ballot box, jury box, and ammo box)
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To: KarlInOhio

But I thought he was “The Architect”?


9 posted on 06/27/2013 4:15:59 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

at this point, what difference does it make?

Stuff it, Karl.


10 posted on 06/27/2013 4:16:07 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: deadrock

Yup,

Rove, Rubio,Coulter and the rest of the GOP will nominate another left-wing RINO in 2016 who will be trounced by Hillary and again 4 years after that.

3rd party now.
So what if it splits the vote.Can`t get any worse.


11 posted on 06/27/2013 4:16:20 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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To: jimbo123
When you think of corrupt sleazeballs that epitomize the image of how the cancer of corruption is destroying our Republic today... karl rove is right there.

LLS

12 posted on 06/27/2013 4:16:31 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: jimbo123

Gee, I don’t know.... maybe it was Romney’s support for abortion and gay marriage, along with him basically telling conservatives that he didn’t want our votes that cost him my vote.


13 posted on 06/27/2013 4:17:51 PM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Santayana are doomed to repeat him)
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To: jimbo123

All that money was IMHO, payoff to the lib MSM. They make a lot of money off of ads.


14 posted on 06/27/2013 4:18:05 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Para-Ord.45

No more Bushes no more Clintons.


15 posted on 06/27/2013 4:18:49 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: jimbo123
Karl Rove: Here Are the 2 Tactical Fails That Cost Romney the Election

Yeah, KARL and ROVE

16 posted on 06/27/2013 4:18:59 PM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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So did I read that right? Rove responded with ads to the Bain issue when Romney had decided the issue wasn't hurting them and didn't warrant a response? Nice move Rove.

The fact is Romney ran a hope and change campaign just like Obama. Where were his plans? He talked about jobs but never explained what he would do to help.

He talked about raising tariffs on China but only if China didn't play by the rules. China can play by the rules, they are already stacked in China's favor.

Romney was already irradiated before he began to run. He had a liberal and a non-Christian past. You don't get much more irradiated than that.

17 posted on 06/27/2013 4:19:39 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SueRae

Karl is desperate.

His big $$$ pro-Amnesty advertising campaign is having the opposite effect. People are calling their congressmen and telling them HELL NO! to Amnesty.

Sounds like The Architect’s donors will be asking for refunds on his consulting fees yet again.


18 posted on 06/27/2013 4:19:42 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Rove AND Romney imposed gay marriage
AND ObamaCARE/ROmneyCARE on America,
and THEN had the gaul to savage Gov. Palin,
making Obama pRes_ _ent in 2008.

They have turned American into Hell
and they should be cursed into Eternity.


19 posted on 06/27/2013 4:20:05 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Para-Ord.45

3rd party now.
So what if it splits the vote.Can`t get any worse.


Amen to that. A strong conservative 3rd party would take off like wild fire.


20 posted on 06/27/2013 4:20:15 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: deadrock
He is trying to sell himself as the power broker and magician with the win in his pocket. The man lost the popular vote in his first Presidential victory and won by a very slim margin in his second. Contrast that with Lee Atwater and even Reagan himself. The republicans have been losing election after election exactly because of men like kkkarl rove and their "vision".

LLS

21 posted on 06/27/2013 4:20:33 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: machogirl

Exactly. Tokyo Rove never puts money into GOTV efforts because there aren’t and advertising dollars for the liberal media stations in the deal.

Plus, he hates talking to Grassroots Conservatives. He despises us.


22 posted on 06/27/2013 4:22:24 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Has Karl Rove ever dominated an election cycle?

In 2000,2002,2004 and 2006 he did a weak job.


23 posted on 06/27/2013 4:23:10 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: jimbo123

He’s been planning his run for 10 years. It never once occurred to him or his crack staff that socialists might attack his capitalist business?

It never once occurred to anyone that the democrats would demand to see his income taxes?

Apparently not because on both issues he sat flat on his heels for seeks before he figured out how to respond to the attacks.


24 posted on 06/27/2013 4:23:10 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

seeks = weeks.


25 posted on 06/27/2013 4:23:33 PM PDT by DManA
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To: jimbo123

“It’s the candidate, stupid.”


26 posted on 06/27/2013 4:23:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jimbo123

Feeling is mutual. I despise him.


27 posted on 06/27/2013 4:24:01 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: jimbo123
Cliff notes:
- should have defended Bain
- should have nixed Clint and his chair
Not a thing about attacking the current regime. Typical.
28 posted on 06/27/2013 4:25:08 PM PDT by Bratch
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Karl is simply trying to remain relevant and employed. It's a doomed endeavor, thank goodness.

Romney was never going to be elected.

29 posted on 06/27/2013 4:26:16 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jimbo123

Here’s a few more tactical problems: CBS, NBC, ABC, NSA, DOJ, IRS.. etc.


30 posted on 06/27/2013 4:26:25 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: jimbo123
Fail 1 :Liberal candidate

Fail 2: Cult Leader Candidate.

FUCR !!

31 posted on 06/27/2013 4:26:39 PM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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Porky pig is a ‘Rat shill. He’s irrelevant.


32 posted on 06/27/2013 4:27:49 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: jimbo123

Romney lost because he wasn’t willing to get down and dirty to win. That and he offered little more than abstract talk, hoping that hate of Obama alone would carry him.

Instead, millions of voters sat home like they did 4 years ago.

Rove is just a vulture looking for more money to pick off of marks.


33 posted on 06/27/2013 4:30:15 PM PDT by Shadow44
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More putrid sludge from Karl Rove, the political parasite.


34 posted on 06/27/2013 4:32:14 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: jimbo123

Not even going to read the Idiots rant ... Have Lindsey FUKR.

(2 of a kind)

TT


35 posted on 06/27/2013 4:35:03 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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But I thought he was “The Architect”?

Karl Rove, the Architect


36 posted on 06/27/2013 4:35:23 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: jimbo123

First: Carl Rove

Second: Lack of Conservatism

Third: Carl Rove


37 posted on 06/27/2013 4:36:39 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: jimbo123

#1 Fail: Following Rove advice not to fight but to lie down like a whipped dog.


38 posted on 06/27/2013 4:36:52 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: jimbo123
Bull !
Romney was a young Bob Dole.
Forgettaboutit...
39 posted on 06/27/2013 4:36:54 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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Liar! Do the math Karl Drove The GOP OFF THE CLIFF! Romney could have got 70% of the “hispanic” vote and still WOULD HAVE LOST!

What is the #1 reason he lost? He was a HORRIBLE candidate and a moron too boot.

And when you PISS OFF THE BASE, you lose.

Rove was probably on the Bush team when they were stabbing Reagan in the back.


40 posted on 06/27/2013 4:40:11 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Note to the NSA: I approved this dissention. What are you going to do about it?)
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To: jimbo123

Here are the 2 fails:

FAIL #1: ROMNEY

FAIL #2: ROMNEY


41 posted on 06/27/2013 4:40:13 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: jimbo123

The architect’s building collapsed before it was built.


42 posted on 06/27/2013 4:42:31 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Shadow44
"Romney lost because he wasn’t willing to get down and dirty to win."

Romney lost because he came across as the rich square dad that didn't know teenagers were making out and smoking pot in his basement.

43 posted on 06/27/2013 4:43:46 PM PDT by Average Al
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To: Para-Ord.45
At this point, a third party with real conservatives running will probably be able to take over the GOP in 4 years.

First, this current House needs to be punished after they took 2010 due to us and then told us to pound sand.

Primary them in 2014. The Tea Party candidates need to regrow their pairs and fight back. Document and show how the GOPe treat them worse than Dems. Embarrass them.

44 posted on 06/27/2013 4:43:56 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Note to the NSA: I approved this dissention. What are you going to do about it?)
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To: jimbo123

Why are the ‘Pubs still listening to Carl Rove? He was President Bush’s Iago.
(Iago was the treacherous main character in Shakespere’s play “Othello”, for those of you who don’t read books).


45 posted on 06/27/2013 4:44:10 PM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: Owl558

I would have voted for Frankenstein rather than not voting or voting for Obama.


46 posted on 06/27/2013 4:44:40 PM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: jimbo123
Carl Rove is only concerned with Carl Rove making money for dispensing advice.

Win or lose the election he makes money.

And his advice sucks !

47 posted on 06/27/2013 4:45:17 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: jimbo123

Mitt Romney would have lost with or without Karl Rove’s help. Such a wimpy prissy butt didn’t have what it takes to beat Obama, plain and simple.


48 posted on 06/27/2013 4:45:32 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: DannyTN

Danny - I may be wrong but I thought he said that the Romney campaign said to NOT respond (when you’re responding you”re losing). Rove said they agreed (and didn’t respond) and that that was a mistake

I think the main reason Romney lost was image. Romney looks like a stodgy old used car salesman. Then the 47% comment wiped him out. I would say that one comment did him in more than anything else.


49 posted on 06/27/2013 4:45:57 PM PDT by plain talk
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Put Rove and Hannity in a room all by themselves ... and spill hundreds or thousands of Leggo Pieces on the floor and let the Arhitect and his lacky come up with something practical and with meaning ...

If that doesnt work give both of them Etch-A-Sketch pads as all they yak about is some fantasy .. which is orbits removed from reality.

Has Rove ever admitted via his whiteboard where his statistics were totally off base ?


50 posted on 06/27/2013 4:49:15 PM PDT by GoldnGate
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