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1 posted on 06/27/2013 8:59:31 AM PDT by ColdOne
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The EmeMedia’s rush to mischaracterize this decision should send a shudder down the spine of every thinking American. This proves that they are firmly on the side of anarchy and lies.


2 posted on 06/27/2013 9:05:53 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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What a tangled web they weave when first they start to adjudicate.


3 posted on 06/27/2013 9:06:17 AM PDT by ckilmer
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On Wednesday, the Supreme Court held that only the losing defendants in that case--the governor and attorney general of California--had standing to appeal that decision. When they refused to do so, Prop 8's official sponsors filed the appeal with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, and pursued it all the way to the Supreme Court.

What the court did here was rule that malfeasance/misfeasance/nonfeasance on the part of these rulers is a-ok: that is, essentially, what they have said here.
The question is why? And it has an easy answer: Proposition 8 was [and is] completely valid as an amendment to California's Constitution — that the governor and AG are required to see that the laws are upheld and faithfully executed is, apparently, irrelevant — moreover, this ruling effectively strips people of the right to petition the federal government when a State is violating the 14th Amendment (after all, only the government has standing).

4 posted on 06/27/2013 9:09:00 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Seems to me if the SCOTUS refuses to decide on an appeal then the lower court ruling would stand. This is confusing.


8 posted on 06/27/2013 9:12:10 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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GayBC News was ready with a bunch of celebratory reports - complete with homosexuals cheering & waxing rhapsodic - at news of the first decision regarding DOMA.

The fact that those were gone by midday told me that the Gay Mob wasn't sure whether the other decision was good news or bad as far as they were concerned.

9 posted on 06/27/2013 9:14:31 AM PDT by skeeter
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Note that no California Appellate Court has ruled on this case nor has any Federal Court or the Supreme Court. To see why this is important you need to read the full article where you will find the following:

But that means Prop 8 is still the law in California. Section 3.5 of the California Constitution specifically commands:

An administrative agency ... has no power:

(a) To declare a statute unenforceable, or refuse to enforce a statute, on the basis of it being unconstitutional unless an appellate court has made a determination that such statute is unconstitutional;

(b) To declare a statute unconstitutional;

(c) To declare a statute unenforceable, or to refuse to enforce a statute on the basis that federal law or federal regulations prohibit the enforcement of such statute unless an appellate court has made a determination that the enforcement of such statute is prohibited by federal law or federal regulations.

11 posted on 06/27/2013 9:18:19 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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it's just gonna be a matter of time.
13 posted on 06/27/2013 9:27:15 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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it's just gonna be a matter of time.
14 posted on 06/27/2013 9:27:16 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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The bottom line is Jerry Brown screwed his own citizens by refusing to defend their vote in court.


18 posted on 06/27/2013 9:54:17 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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LOL- I hope this is true


19 posted on 06/27/2013 9:56:43 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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Mark Levin nailed this one. They handed it back to be picked apart by the lower courts, based on their central finding that “you have to be a bigot in order to oppose gay marriage”.

Levin said this was “written by very clever law clerks” to destroy Prop 8. while keeping SCOTUS fingerprints off of that.


20 posted on 06/27/2013 9:58:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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They’ll ignore it. Really. That is what will happen.


26 posted on 06/27/2013 10:10:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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If m reading this right, the path forward for Prop 8 supporters is to sue Moonbeam to enforce the law, as proscribed in the CA constitution

Do I have that right?


29 posted on 06/27/2013 10:21:52 AM PDT by tanknetter
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Someone please ‘splain this in NON LAWYER speak.


30 posted on 06/27/2013 10:25:17 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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It's all over. The homosexuals won. It may well be a pyrrhic victory, like the return of Elian was to the Florida vote in 2000.

Here is a taste of the treats awaiting American taxpayers.

34 posted on 06/27/2013 10:30:09 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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> “Since the official sponsors lacked standing to defend Prop 8, the Supreme Court refused to rule on the merits, and also vacated (i.e., threw out) the the Ninth Circuit’s decision.”
> “But that means Prop 8 is still the law in California.”

I am sorry to say but this is totally misleading.

The decision by the homosexual federal judge Vaughn Walker, who overturned Prop 8 on 14th Amendment grounds, still stands.

The only recourse for Californians now is for the California state AG to file suit to overturn this homosexual judge’s decision. That’s not going to happen any time soon in California.

The broader strategy is to pass a US Constitutional Marriage Amendment.

But first the public must be reminded or taught about the downside of the homosexual lifestyle just as so many pro-life people have undertaken to expose abortion mills. Behind the curtain of the homosexual lifestyle are horrors for eyes to see and ears to hear, and these horrors are prevalent among this group.


38 posted on 06/27/2013 10:43:41 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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Wow, thanks ColdOne. Hearing and have read exactly the opposite today. Even have read headline this A.M. of DOMA being struck down at yahoo, even though that is untrue. Homos have been celebrating though; so is the lame-stream up to pulling off another fast one by covering up the truth ... probably so. Each knows the lame-stream is always trying to pull a fast one, each time their mouths open or a report is written. May they all fail.
40 posted on 06/27/2013 10:45:13 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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I’m an old college graduate with a major in History and a minor in Political Science, and I am hopelessly confused by this Court.

Remember the good old days.....when words had meanings?


44 posted on 06/27/2013 10:57:58 AM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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In Perry v. Brown [precursor to yesterday's Perry v. Hollingsworth decision], the 9th Circuit sent a CERTIFIED QUESTION to the CA State Supreme Court, asking whether Holllingsworth had standing.

The answer was in the affirmative and the 9th Circuit accepted it.

Any egg-head lawyers out there? The following comes from the New York State Court of Appeals Civil Procedure Handbook:

"Decision By Court of Appeals. Section 500.27(g) provides that “[w]hen a determination is rendered by the Court with respect to the questions certified, it shall be sent by the clerk of the Court to the certifying court.” It is the practice of the Clerk’s Office to send copies of the Court of Appeals’ decision directly to the parties. The Clerk’s Office then will return to the certifying court that court’s record. See Procedures for Certification in the Second Court of Appeals, supra, for discussion of procedure upon receipt of answers. Although a party may seek reconsideration of the Court of Appeals’ answer to certified questions as with other decisions of that Court, a party has no right to seek review of the Court of Appeals’ decision by the United States Supreme Court."

In this case, the New York Court of Appeals will make a decision on a certified question and send back to the certifying court [eg: Federal Court of Appeals]. If the decision is accepted by the certifying court, it cannot be reviewed by the USSC.

So, HOW then, could the USSC [yesterday] REVERSE the 9th Circuit's acceptance of the CA State Supreme Court's decision on standing in Perry v. Hollingsworth?

53 posted on 06/27/2013 2:27:26 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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Rut roh...


55 posted on 06/27/2013 2:44:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama: Clear and present danger year five...)
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