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PICTURE: German air force to bid 'Pharewell' to last F-4Fs
Flight International ^ | 06/26/2013 | Craig Hoyle

Posted on 06/26/2013 2:09:54 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

PICTURE: German air force to bid 'Pharewell' to last F-4Fs

Germany will retire its last operational McDonnell Douglas F-4F Phantom IIs on 29 June, with the veteran type's duties having been assumed by Eurofighter units.

After almost 40 years of service, the final interceptors will be retired during a decommissioning event to be staged at the Luftwaffe's Wittmund air base.

The final German examples are operated by the air force's JG 71 "Richthofen" squadron, which was also the first to begin flying the type, in March 1974. Delivered in 1973, its first F-4F, 37+01, received a special livery for the occasion.

A total of 263 Phantoms were acquired by Germany, the air force says, including 88 in the RF-4E reconnaissance configuration, from 1971.

Flightglobal's MiliCAS database shows Germany's retirement of the Phantom will reduce the global frontline fleet of the type to 431 aircraft, operated by the air forces of Egypt, Greece, Iran, Japan, South Korea and Turkey. The US Air Force also has more than 150 examples, which have been adapted for use as QF-4 aerial targets.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f4; germany; luftwaffe; phantomii
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To: ping jockey
correct you are. The f-16’s are the baddest of the bad with the notable exception of the F 22 raptor.

Fixed your error..you're welcome.

21 posted on 06/26/2013 3:02:21 PM PDT by Wingy
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I thought the article meant these F4F's. F4F Wildcat
22 posted on 06/26/2013 3:07:34 PM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I thought the article meant these F4F’s.

<IMG SRC=”http://www.alexhamilton.net/media/f4fgrummanwildcat_fs.jpg"; ALT=”F4F Wildcat”


23 posted on 06/26/2013 3:08:00 PM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I thought the article meant these F4F's. F4F Wildcat
24 posted on 06/26/2013 3:08:29 PM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: Stingray

My third best Phantom memory was of 250lb & 500lb bombs they dropped and the expanding condensation domes caused by the shock waves.

My second best memory of the F-4 was one making a 20mm gun run using his Vulcan on an NVA position we were assaulting. The Phantom was dropping 20mm brass all over us. Made us thankful that we had helmets & flak vests... and really, really glad that something like that was not strafing us!

The wildest memory was the day an F-4 made a dry run over us, looking for an NVA mortar firing from a hidden pit. He came in from behind our lines and I remember thinking, “I hope he doesn’t make his LIVE run from that direction.”

Sure enough, a minute or two later we hear that special Phantom engine whine and looked behind us. There he was, about 75 feet off the deck and maybe 75 yards behind us, coming our way fast. He had just released 6 snake-eyes, probably 250 pounders. The fins had popped open, plus he’d released two canisters of napalm which were tumbling along.

We were in a little gully about 2 feet deep and immediately begin trying to burrow into the dirt (not that it really mattered!) All that ordnance sailed right over us and hit 40 or 50 yards or so in front, right on top of that NVA mortar.

Overkill, but it works for me...


25 posted on 06/26/2013 3:08:37 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I'm former USMC, VN vet ... can't even begin to tell you how many F4 air strikes I watched up on the DMZ.
Greatest sight in the world. We always cheered like it was a sporting event. To this day, it's my favorite plane.

26 posted on 06/26/2013 3:15:21 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: tet68
Chu Lai and F4's:

 photo Burners_zps26f5aace.jpg

27 posted on 06/26/2013 3:17:39 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Former F-4e/g Asst Shop Chief A.M.S. Calibration Docks, George AFB, where the WEST German Luftwaffe trained in F4f’s........

(Slow Salute)


28 posted on 06/26/2013 3:18:18 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Feckless

Had one come over us just a bit more than tree-top level

with full burners on dropping a napalm bomb about a

quarter mile in front of us

Guess he saved our butts,but it scared the crap outta us.


29 posted on 06/26/2013 3:18:35 PM PDT by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

1973, Naval Air Station, Albany, GA (primarily A-5 Vigilantes stationed there)...a Marine F-4 flew in, landed, taxied and parked on the tarmac for a short while. Pilot called a little later for clearance to taxi back out...cleared him to taxi...heading to MCAS Cherry Point. As soon as the pilot was on the parallel taxiway, he started calling immediately for takeoff clearance. Not unusual for a pilot to do that...very often cleared for takeoff like that if there was no traffic. Couldn’t clear him though...had a T-38 on short final already cleared for touch & go. He was gonna have to stop at the end of the taxiway and wait for the T-38 to clear. Pilot asked a few more times, wanting to get out in front of the T-38...really pushing for clearance. Then I noticed smoke coming from under his aircraft...looked like a wheel fire. Grabbed the binoculars...sure enough, his left wheel was on fire. Told the F-4 pilot about the fire...”Roger, tower, shutting down.” Rolled the trucks and the fire was put out.

As it turned out, there was something wrong with the aircraft. Engines were spooling up and pilot couldn’t bring them down, so the plane was in an uncontrolled acceleration down the taxiway. The pilot’s answer? Stand on the brakes until he could get clearance...which led to the wheel fire.

He knew the plane was broken and he wasn’t going to be able to stop at the end of the runway. All he wanted to do was get off the ground, get to Cherry Point, call an emergency while inbound, land and be on a Marine base for dinner.


30 posted on 06/26/2013 3:21:57 PM PDT by moovova
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To: DFG

If it wasn’t for those F4F’s (along with the SDB Dauntless Dive Bombers and TBF Avengers), we would have never won the ‘Battle of Midway’.


31 posted on 06/26/2013 3:26:40 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: sukhoi-30mki
damn i feel old...
32 posted on 06/26/2013 3:28:54 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: moovova

You were Navy AC? Marine ATC, here. 7312/22/24. I still miss Millington NATTC. Fun not to be believed and will never, ever happen in the Navy/Marine Corps again.


33 posted on 06/26/2013 3:33:27 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Chode
damn i feel old...

"WE" old.............

34 posted on 06/26/2013 3:35:37 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
100%
35 posted on 06/26/2013 3:38:04 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Damn! I had a little over 700 hours in the F-4E/G. I’d gladly come out of retirement of fly them again, but I guess I’m not the only one getting old...


36 posted on 06/26/2013 3:39:21 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Conserev1

Spent three years with the Phantom at Spangdalem Airbase Germany. The cold war was in high gear and we had the Victor Alert Area, that had 5 Phantoms loaded with nukes on the 24/7 plan! AMMO!!!!!


37 posted on 06/26/2013 3:44:55 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: 98ZJ USMC

Yeah...VFR tower. Did A School at Glynco, NATTC. Never did radar. Had Marines in class with us at Glynco. Used to laugh at those guys because they would go out in the hall at break time and get into wrestling matches. They were a hoot. Always heard of Millington but never visited. Wound up at NAS Albany GA, then on to NAF Sigonella, Sicily...which was a little slice of Heaven in its own way.


38 posted on 06/26/2013 3:54:54 PM PDT by moovova
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To: sukhoi-30mki

For all you puppies who weren’t around in 1967.

F-4 Phantom Departure Vietnam DaNang Air Base

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T906S0E62g


39 posted on 06/26/2013 3:59:30 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Wingy

You can’t compare a one engine platform to two. The F-15 can sit stationary on it’s end on the ground and still have enough power to accelerate and take off like a rocket straight up.


40 posted on 06/26/2013 4:13:06 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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