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The Federal Government was founded in three documents. The Constitution the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.

Please if you would find a definition of Marriage in any of the the three.

See we are talking about the Federal Government. DOMA is Federal. Soon you will get to see the Marriage Equality Amendment proposed. So when it is ratified THEN you will be correct. Government will be forever involved in marriage!

I might get into some trouble, but I disagree with DOMA because marriage laws, if any, should be left to the States and/or the people themselves to decide. I tend to be a right-leaning libertarian or perhaps a paleo-libertarian/conservative (I'm very pro-life) but the way I understand the ruling is how you put it with the strikedown of Prop 8. Let each State and the people decide. Personally, I like the libertarian solution of just having marriage a church matter, the only State involvement is where it is treated like a contract between two consenting people where it shows who speak for whom, inheritance and who is responsible for children, if any. I'd like to see a return to a form of taxation where excise, consumption and tariff taxes fund the Feds, but if there HAS to be an income tax, make it flat. 10% above a certain amount, say, $20K or 25K. No tax deductions either, no child deductions. Also no insurance benefits with jobs either, you buy your own via the free market. You can put on whomever you like if you can pay for it. For the poor, vouchers will be issued. This is true equality, IMHO.

I think DOMA being struck down was correct but I believe Prop 8 should have been upheld. I'm afraid this has opened up the door for more government involvement. I can personally care less who marries who as long as they can enter the agreement knowingly and with sound mind. However, deep down inside, I favor traditional marriage in my heart. Little Jeremiah, pinging you out of ettiquite, is right on one thing and a big thing, we do have the death of common sense where this issue was never really address since common sense did say a marriage is between a man and woman. I have nothing against civil unions but I think common sense died.

BTW, I really break off with the Libertarian Party where I think their policy on defense is not always correct and their stance on immigration and abortion is a platform I do not agree with.

"I think DOMA being struck down was correct but I believe Prop 8 should have been upheld."

Ahh but see that isn't how it works.

Once the Fedgov camel nose is under the tent the game is over.

And so-called Conservatives on this site won't admit that they knew this all along.

One more time. If you give the Fed Gov power over something THEY WILL DESTROY IT!

Of course the founding documents said nothing about marriage. People then were educated and valued moral standards; they had ot reason to make a statement that marriage does not mean two sodomites sodomizing each other! Such a wild thought would never have entered their heads - that society would degrade so much, and the government become so tyrannical, that a tiny percentage of mentally ill sex perverts would use government to force everyone to bow to sodomy in the form of destroying the meaning of marriage.

They also do not define “natural born citizen” because everyone knew what that meant, too.

The ONLY reason DOMA was passed in the first place was as a DEFENSE against sex perverts from doing exactly what they have done - that is, get the government (of all levels) in volved in CHANGING the definiton of marriage. It is the sodomy pushers who are using Huge Nanny State Government to force the perversion of marriage on everyone. THe fact that people like rabid dog and other liberaltarians are slamming people who share my POV and not slamming the mentally ill sex perverts and their supporters who have used Huge Nanny State Government to push their sick and destructive agenda is very revealing.

The homosexual agenda pushers will never, ever stop in their mad march to societal revolution and destruction. Already today are headlines that churches will lose tax exempt status if they don’t marry two same sex perverts in church, and the military will now give benefits to pairs of sodomy practitioners.

I guess this is fine and dandy with people like you.

Enjoy the ride, it’s going to get a lot rougher.