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SCOTUS: same-sex marriage decisions - Live Thread (Decisions at 97, 194, & 217)
Free Republic | 06/26/2013 | BuckeyeTexan

Posted on 06/25/2013 9:54:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

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To: PapaNew
On both of these issues the government (Fed's in DOMA, and state in Prop) did not chose to represent the case in their respective decisions.

There ought to be a law.

301 posted on 06/26/2013 8:15:47 AM PDT by mware
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To: Outraged At FLA
Ok, so without government telling us how we define our own personal relationships, we are doomed. That’s just wonderful. When did the Republican party decide that it needed government so much? I thought it was the party for smaller government? No, it isn’t anymore. It is full of a bunch of self righteous hypocrites who wish to use the same jack boots as the left to push their agenda. It isn’t about liberty anymore, just the power to ram your beliefs on others.

You skipped my post entirely and went back to the fantasy role playing of pretending that marriage was suddenly going to become just whatever any body wants to call it with no law involved.

DON’T WASTE TIME IGNORING ACTUAL POLITICS AND REAL LIFE AND CURRENT LEGISLATION AND ELECTIONS BY TRYING TO PRETEND THAT MARRIAGE WILL BE REMOVED FROM LAW AND GOVERNMENT IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO OR 20 ANYWAY, THAT ARGUMENT DOESN’T EXIST, IT NEVER HAS, AND QUIT PRETENDING THAT IT DOES.

302 posted on 06/26/2013 8:15:58 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: Lmo56

“Maybe yes, maybe no. The only saving grace with illlegal hispanics in CA is that most of them are Roman Catholic”

It was basically the Mormans who came out in force against queer “marriage” in California. The Mormans have since caved the sodomite agenda, case in point being the Boy Scouts. If the definition of marriage is once again put on the California ballot it will pass with 75% of the vote.
The next state to fall will be Oregon. Washington already has. The only Western state that will not be taken over by the sodomites is Idaho. The illegal hispanics in California who are Catholic are a non-factor. Most would not vote and even if they did they do what Obama tells them to do. They like their foodstamps too much to go against Comrade Obama.


303 posted on 06/26/2013 8:17:39 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: ansel12

Wonder when the government is going to insist that ALL religious group comply with their decision, and allow anyone who wants to, to get married in church.


304 posted on 06/26/2013 8:18:45 AM PDT by mware
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Here's the live discussion threadm suitable for venting. This is a perfect example that with a rotten to the stinking core judiciary (on every level), there is no recourse. No peaceable one. If anyone has any good ideas for a peaceable recourse, let me know.

A very dark day. Words cannot express the depth of my disgust and loathing for Roberts. I can only hope now for something (whatever it/they might be) that will bring this monstrous evil to an end.

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305 posted on 06/26/2013 8:20:09 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ansel12
You misunderstand me. I believe freedom means that on a local level, I may not always get what I want if enough people on a local level vote otherwise. I personally am against sodomy. But I am also against government interfering with people's private lives when they are not interfering with another's freedom. Otherwise, today government interferes with those we don't agree with and tomorrow, it will interfere with the rest of what we thought we were free to do.

Peoples personal choices (that do not interfere others personal choices) are personal and spiritual issues and are solved at that level. They are not political or judicial issues, IMO.

306 posted on 06/26/2013 8:20:39 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: dbehsman

I beg you. Please stop calling other FReepers satanic. The Almighty Father, in his infinite wisdom, gave us free will. While we may disagree with Libertarians on gay marriage on religious grounds, they do support the concept of an individual’s free will. If an individual chooses homosexuality, that is between him and God. As believers we are instructed to judge other believers not those “of this world.” There is but one judge and He will judge the world.


307 posted on 06/26/2013 8:20:55 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Outraged At FLA; Jim Robinson

<....”saying this decision is bad because of what some ‘sky pixie’ will think is somehow the opposite of ignorance”....>

Why are you here if you see God as a ‘ski pixie’? The founder of this site makes it clear otherwise:

“We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism,...’ homosexualism;’... racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc.

Our GOD-given liberty and freedoms are ‘not negotiable’.

May GOD bless and protect our men and women in uniform fighting for our freedom and may GOD continue to bless America.”

Jim Robinson


308 posted on 06/26/2013 8:21:09 AM PDT by caww
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To: mware

“Wonder when the government is going to insist that ALL religious group comply with their decision, and allow anyone who wants to, to get married in church.”

That would be right after they abuse the full faith and credit clause to force homo marriage into states that have banned it.


309 posted on 06/26/2013 8:21:18 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Lazamataz

And I thought you were up all night cleaning. :)


310 posted on 06/26/2013 8:21:27 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: Outraged At FLA

Hey idiot, the governemnt just DID define “personal relationships”! THe people voted - NO on homo “marriage” and the government said “You must have same sex marriage, even if the majority of the people voting in the state of CA said NO”!

This is the very jack booted thug tyranny you claim you are opposed to.


311 posted on 06/26/2013 8:21:57 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: PapaNew

Does that freedom include the freedom to choose polygamy?


312 posted on 06/26/2013 8:22:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: caww
"was “for the children”.....over and over again......children they cannot produce."

Yes, and children they don't give a rip about, unless they can dress them up in leather and chains to parade them around (see Folsom Street Fair).

"They lean on anything and everything that will avoid saying what the truth is that this is about legalizing their despicable sexual acts..and that’s all it is. "

Exactly.

313 posted on 06/26/2013 8:23:05 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: GenXteacher
That would be right after they abuse the full faith and credit clause to force homo marriage into states that have banned it.

Won't be the first time the Church has had to go undergroud. We will eventually win,but it is sure dark out there right now.

314 posted on 06/26/2013 8:23:17 AM PDT by mware
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To: Outraged At FLA

The free people (”free”????) VOTED ATAINST same sex marriage, fool.

One faggot judge told them they had to swallow it in CA, and now one (DELETED BAD WORDS) Judge Roberts told them the same thing.

Your support of homosexual perversion is duly noted.


315 posted on 06/26/2013 8:23:24 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: OneWingedShark

Thats like saying the feds should not tax income. One can argue these things all they want but it is pissing in the wind. Marriage status affects taxes and thus it IS a fed and state issue whether we like it or not.


316 posted on 06/26/2013 8:23:49 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: onyx

God help us. The world has gone mad.


317 posted on 06/26/2013 8:24:13 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Why did Scalia vote against DOMA? I do not get it. I also cannot speak/understand legalese.


318 posted on 06/26/2013 8:24:35 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Outraged At FLA
<.....”This is why the party is losing and will continue to lose. No consistent message”.....>

No, it's because people as yourself, with twisted thinking, infiltrated the party by wearing the mask of conservatism.

319 posted on 06/26/2013 8:24:49 AM PDT by caww
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To: OneWingedShark

That post made no sense at all.

While your current fight is against marriage, today, now, your arguments seem to be about some fantasy world, in some sci-fi future or something.


320 posted on 06/26/2013 8:26:16 AM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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