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It Begins… 2010 Democratic Gubernatorial Candidate Pushes Chinese-Style Population Control
Gateway Pundit ^ | June 24, 2013 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 06/25/2013 5:07:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Michael E. Arth ran for governor in Florida in 2010 as a Democrat.

Michael E. Arth shaking hands with supporters while running for governor of Florida in 2010.

This week Arth pushed Chinese-style population control. He also Americans should purchase “birth credits” to have kids. Vice.com reported:

So if people live longer and longer, how do you deal with overpopulation? That’s why we have to get started now. Waiting just compounds the problem. World population increases by 220,000 every day, after accounting for the 155,000 who die. It’s truly a hydra-headed problem, because for every person that is cut down by death, more than two are born. This is like adding the combined populations of England, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand to the world every year. Politicians don’t address overpopulation because they focus on issues that will get them re-elected in the short term, while the business interests that influence them want to see more and more consumers.

They don’t address it unless they’re China. China would have two billion people today if not for their population policies. Nevertheless, China still added 350 million more Chinese since they implemented strict family planning measures in 1978, because of what’s called population momentum. Because of the burst in population growth under Chairman Mao, the average age of the population had dropped. Until these excess young people had their own children, the population increased faster than if you had an evenly distributed demographic. So even limiting families to one child per couple was not low enough to stop population growth.

Now, thanks to the one-child policy – to which there are many exceptions, by the way – China’s ageing population will probably not grow much more from now on, as long as they don’t remove the restrictions....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: china; democrats; florida; moralabsolutes; overpopulation; populationcontrol
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1 posted on 06/25/2013 5:07:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Illegals can have, and rape their way into,
scores of children, but American citizens must
apply to the State for permission for their first.

Makes sense. What could go wrong?


2 posted on 06/25/2013 5:10:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And if people don’t buy those “birth credits”... will there be forced abortions or executions of newborns?


3 posted on 06/25/2013 5:12:17 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stick a fork in the USA it’s done!


4 posted on 06/25/2013 5:14:20 AM PDT by rhubarbk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yikes, he looks like David Koresh On a side note, anyone else believe the surge in the homosexual agenda is about population control?
5 posted on 06/25/2013 5:16:50 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe that there are Freepers who are sympathetic to “overpopulation” issues and agree that something should be done to curb population growth. My post here is meant to draw our attention to their ignorance. Hopefully they will come out of the shadows and then we can get their minds right.


6 posted on 06/25/2013 5:17:05 AM PDT by impimp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"these excess young people"

!!!! He speaks this way about PEOPLE!
7 posted on 06/25/2013 5:18:27 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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To: rhubarbk

Gotta love the pic. :shakes hands with constituent:

“Nice to meet you. You probably should have never been born, nor should you procreate. You are a detriment to the planet. Me, however ..well, that’s a different story.

Have a nice day. Vote for me!!”


8 posted on 06/25/2013 5:19:02 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s my attempt at population control - quit importing people!


9 posted on 06/25/2013 5:19:59 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: meyer

Better yet, those that believe that there are too many people should do the honorable thing and “off” themselves. Lead by example!


10 posted on 06/25/2013 5:21:06 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live in Florida and have never heard of this guy running for Gov. He probably got 5 or 6 votes.


11 posted on 06/25/2013 5:22:31 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“birth credits” eh? Looking at him i dont think hewill probably ever have a need for that.


12 posted on 06/25/2013 5:23:19 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: ScottinVA

Flip it: if you’re dependent on Government Payments, you are REQUIRED to have a birth-control implant. Disagree with birth control ? Fine. Either get sterilized or no payments. . .


13 posted on 06/25/2013 5:24:30 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: driftdiver
I live in Florida and have never heard of this guy running for Gov. He probably got 5 or 6 votes.

Me neither, and I live in Florida, too. All I remember is Sink, Sank, Sunk. Also remember Swamp Witch running at some time (Janet Reno).
14 posted on 06/25/2013 5:25:58 AM PDT by klgator
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To: wolfman23601

> On a side note, anyone else believe the surge in the homosexual agenda is about population control?

I’ve always thought this was why the government so actively promotes the lifestle other than Bathhouse Barry’s support ofit for obvious reasons...


15 posted on 06/25/2013 5:26:18 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

‘... should purchase “birth credits” to have kids.’

Let me guess, the $ goes to govt.


16 posted on 06/25/2013 5:26:23 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Salgak

So they would be required to break God’s laws?


17 posted on 06/25/2013 5:28:04 AM PDT by impimp
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To: klgator; driftdiver

It reads like a bad tragi-comedic movie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_E._Arth


18 posted on 06/25/2013 5:30:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
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To: wolfman23601

I think population control is a close second to the primary agenda of destroying the family.

I think the family is the el primo target for the left/Satan. This can be seen by looking at the totality of the agenda that the left is pushing - even down to the details of car seat requirements (larger per child footprint in the car) combined with fuel economy requirements (smaller cars). This is just one example of many.


19 posted on 06/25/2013 5:31:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: NewCenturions
He speaks this way about PEOPLE!

So does his master. We have an enemy. He really hates us - because his Enemy loves us.

20 posted on 06/25/2013 5:31:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

What about the H1N1 panic and vaccine?


21 posted on 06/25/2013 5:34:54 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: meyer
those that believe that there are too many people should do the honorable thing and “off” themselves.

I'd tell them to do the opposite, to pro-create themselves. Except with slightly different words.

22 posted on 06/25/2013 5:40:40 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: wolfman23601

Has there been any evidence of the effects of the vaccine?
I know H1N1 was overblown - a real non-issue. But I think that was just media sensationalism.


23 posted on 06/25/2013 5:41:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: impimp

Not at all. They just don’t get welfare or food stamps. . .


24 posted on 06/25/2013 5:43:17 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: MrB

No, nothing concrete that I know of, but plenty of conspiracy theories. As an anecdote, my wife and I got pregnant with our first within 2 weeks of going off birth control. Now almost 5 years later we are still working on #2. She went against my wishes and got the stupid vaccine. Now, we haven’t spent the money on fertility research and I can’t necessarily blame the vaccine, but it is always in the back of my mind.


25 posted on 06/25/2013 5:49:00 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: ScottinVA

Or will we see “executions” of those trying to enact or enforce such a law? Not proposing, just wondering..... It would be rather difficult for someone to try and claim the moral high ground when up to their knees in dead babies.


26 posted on 06/25/2013 5:56:33 AM PDT by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: Pecos
It would be rather difficult for someone to try and claim the moral high ground when up to their knees in dead babies.

Democrats do it all the time... in a political sense, at least.

27 posted on 06/25/2013 5:58:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberal is to patriotism as Kermit Gosnell is to neonatal care.)
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To: Pecos
It would be rather difficult for someone to try and claim the moral high ground when up to their knees in dead babies.

But they do that all the time. Christians are evil, hypocritical and judgmental. Pro-abortion folks are much more moral -- they'll let practically anyone kill a child.

28 posted on 06/25/2013 5:58:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Diogenesis
Illegals can have, and rape their way into, scores of children, but American citizens must apply to the State for permission for their first.

Not entirely true.

Only white "Bitter Clingers" would require prior authorization to reproduce.

Their requests will be processed by overpaid, incompetent, liberal IRS employees not otherwise engaged in ignoring 501-c requests from conservative organizations.


29 posted on 06/25/2013 6:04:33 AM PDT by Iron Munro (From nobody to senator, to Conservative savior,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He's right. We need to limit the birth rate of existing Americans to prevent competition to the Amnestied Illegals. Americans just can't cut it and need to be replaced with morally superior, stronger work ethic illegal aliens who will add so much prosperity to our economy. /sarc
30 posted on 06/25/2013 6:09:13 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This same idiot would also vote for unfettered immigration and amnesty.


31 posted on 06/25/2013 6:10:44 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michael E. Arth should pick Chealsea Clinton as his running mate.

They both have simplistic solutions to the complex problem of “these excess young people” withjout consideration for unexpected consequences.

Chelsea has not yet advocated outright government population control.

But she did state her regrets that her great-grandmother, as an unwed pregnant teenager, didn’t have access to an abortion clinic so that she could have aborted Chelsea’s grandmother.

I don’t think much of Art’s proposals, but Chelsea’s ideas might have proven to be beneficial to the USA.


32 posted on 06/25/2013 6:17:51 AM PDT by Iron Munro (From nobody to senator, to Conservative savior,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s scary that people like this are competitive candidates. The day my government starts to tell me how many kids they’ll permit is the day II start shooting.


33 posted on 06/25/2013 6:19:05 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had the opportunity to travel to China a couple of times. While in a park in Beijing I watched a grandmother play with her granddaughter and began to think of the familial solitude this child will experience: no siblings, no aunts or uncles, therefore no cousins. I would think it would be much harder to instill family values when playmates would necessarily be from outside the family and probably within a government controlled setting. There will be no extended family at all except parents and grandparents. How will this one child take care of two aging parents and four aging grandparents? It can’t be done. The elderly will have to be institutionalized if the child has any expectation of employment. The social ramifications are scary!


34 posted on 06/25/2013 6:19:36 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: ScottinVA

Just like China the man said.


35 posted on 06/25/2013 6:36:06 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: wolfman23601; 2ndDivisionVet
I think it is a sound inference from the known facts, that the LGBT agenda is being pushed by US and international population-controllers. Everything they're willing to promote globally, is anti natural sexual procreation.

See for yourself. What do all these things have in common?

36 posted on 06/25/2013 6:47:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Congratulations, Alan Grayson. You are now officially no longer the Looniest Democrat in Florida.


37 posted on 06/25/2013 7:07:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jsanders2001
“birth credits” eh? Looking at him i dont think he will probably ever have a need for that.

Look closely at the picture....the woman is shaking hands with Arth's wife....a.k.a....his right hand.

38 posted on 06/25/2013 7:14:39 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Salgak; little jeremiah; Tax-chick
" Flip it: if you’re dependent on Government Payments, you are REQUIRED to have a birth-control implant. Disagree with birth control ? Fine. Either get sterilized or no payments."

I get it: basically, reproductive maiming as the price of survival. No appeal to reason, 100% coercion. Very much what what the Communist dictator, Nicolae Ceaucescu did in Romania, though his game was state-compulsory --- not state-prohibited --- childbearing. Same deal, though: get the maximum number of people dependent on govt, and then --- because they're dependent --- their bodies belong to the State and will be used for the Collective. What a detestable suggestion.

But the U.S. govt. won't do it that way --- because our Reptilian Masters have figured out a better way. It will all be done by "choice". They have already de-constructed marriage, de-normed heterosexuality, and pathologized fertility. (Ever notice that conception, pregnancy and childbirth are all monitored by the Centers for Disease Control?)

The next step will be to demonize childbearing. They will make motherhood repugnant in the minds of all. Pregnant women will be shamed the way Paul Deen is being shamed, as being a public dork, a health hazard, a laughingstock, rejected as pathetic, Palin-slimed ("Is your vagina a clown-car?")

Our Masters won't make hormonal implants mandatory. They'll make them fashionable. They'll make them a right! The opinionistas will declare that life is intolerable without an implant. And then --- rights for all!

It's already 75% fait accompli.

And not a gun being fired.

39 posted on 06/25/2013 7:18:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Hardly. You’re demanding the taxpayer subsidize your survival. Fine. To get, you need to give. At minimum, a guarantee that you won’t FURTHER weigh down the taxpayers with additional dependents. . . .

Have **all** the children you want. But support them by the sweat of YOUR brow,not that of the rest of us. . .


40 posted on 06/25/2013 7:29:07 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell Arth not to worry SARs is on the way.


41 posted on 06/25/2013 7:42:44 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here's my viewpoint on population control: those who can support their kids without welfare payments, and raise them to become productive citizens, should have as many kids as they desire.

Those who demand taxpayer subsidy should have as many kids as they can raise by themselves without welfare. For some, that number may be zero.

42 posted on 06/25/2013 7:57:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Another idiot who doesn't understand demographics. His welfare state is unsupportable with a static or declining population.

Of course, what they don't tell you is that what they really want, is to replace Americans of european extraction who would live ni a nation of laws, not men, with masses of pliant 3rd worlders who will accept their graft, corruption and cronyism as just the way things are done.

43 posted on 06/25/2013 7:59:46 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: zeugma
Another idiot who doesn't understand demographics. His welfare state is unsupportable with a static or declining population.

Or rather, the welfare state is only supportable if the growth rate of the underclass is held below the growth rate of the taxpaying class.

44 posted on 06/25/2013 8:02:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Salgak
The question of sexual maiming is separable from the question of government assistance (though you did not limit it to "assistance", but said "anyone dependent of government payments", which would include government employees and contractors, and their dependent family members. But we'll let that pass.)

If you want to vastly reduce the welfare rolls, there are better ways to do it than to offer the infliction of permanent disability as an alternative. You could just put in time limits and work requirements. And immediately cease all the tax and regulatory burdens which have as their effect the extermination of enterprise.

Reproductive maiming is wrong in itself --- intrinsically wrong --- and doubly so if enforced by coercion.

45 posted on 06/25/2013 8:03:28 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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Mrs.Don-o says it better than I can. Plus she knows how to do bullet points. Very saddening and enraging. But to be honest, I think there is going to be a massive turnaround. There are more of us who are not on board than they think.

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46 posted on 06/25/2013 5:19:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Salgak; Mrs. Don-o
Have **all** the children you want. But support them by the sweat of YOUR brow,not that of the rest of us. . .

Welfare needs to stop rewarding deadbeat females for having children.

First off, welfare needs to be abolished and let the churches do their job of caring for the poor, where there's accountability.

Second, stop paying women to have babies. In NY you get money for each child up to four. So guess how many four children welfare families you see.

LOTS!!!!

As long as they are paid to make babies, they will because they don't have to take care of them and they don't.

If people are going to sit on their butts all day and take the free money and other hand outs from the government, it OUGHT to come with strings attached. Don't like the strings? Don't take the money.

47 posted on 06/25/2013 8:46:01 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
I certainly agree with the churches and private philanthropies taking over the support of the poor and unemployed: chronic public dependency is a bad thing all around, for everybody.

We're in agreement on that. The matter we disagree on, is whether there should be the threat of of disabling the recipient.

Physical maiming should not be an alternative. It is immoral because it is treating this person as a dog to be spayed. It would be better to have public works employment at minimum wage --- streets still need to be swept after all, and restrooms cleaned --- than to force people to be surgically maimed.

A more acceptable solution would be time limits on benefits and work requirements. Back in the '90, thousands and thousands were taken off the welfare rolls because of strict time limits and the need to document disability.

48 posted on 06/26/2013 3:06:00 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Sorry if I left the impression that I supported sterilization. That doesn’t allow for someone to change.

That said, I support drug testing for welfare recipients and much more accountability. This business of handing them free money and giving them free rein.

I lived in a welfare town for 18 LONG years and saw all the abuses of it. They are handed everything, scam the system, and whine about how bad they have it. It sickens me. I HATE welfare and the whole program should be defunded.


49 posted on 06/26/2013 6:02:17 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
I agree with you: long-term welfare is a soul-sickening system. It is neither charity nor justice to lure a needy brother or sister into a degrading state of lifelong dependency.

People use EBT cards for cigarettes, alcohol, lottery tickets, nail salons, tattoes, drugs and pornography. When my hard-working, highly thrifty DIL was doing checkout at a grocery, it made her angry every day to see people paying for carts full of junk food AND expensive cuts of meat and seafood, while she -- working every day and conscientiously paying off student loans --- was living on bagged beans and the cheaper cuts of macaroni.

Drug tests, payment ceilings, work requirements, and lifetime limits on benefits would be a good place to start.

And the illegals --- oh man...

50 posted on 06/26/2013 6:16:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can obseve a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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