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Can Democrats Win Back the Deep South?
The Atlantic ^ | June 23, 2013 | Molly Ball

Posted on 06/23/2013 12:45:39 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi

In the coming weeks, Hanauer and Loranne Ausley, a former member of the Florida House of Representatives, plan to launch something they're calling the Southern Project, which will conduct research and formulate messages that can help Democrats win over Southern voters. A pilot study conducted in North Carolina in February, for example, concluded that under the state's Republican governor, Pat McCrory, "there is a clear sense that hardworking taxpayers are getting the short end of the stick at the expense of big corporations and the wealthiest." The set of talking points advises progressives to make arguments "focused around fairness and accountability," whether the issue is tax reform or charter schools. The Southern Project will equip Southern Democrats with similar examples of messages that have been poll-tested to resonate with voters.

Obama lost North Carolina by just 2 percentage points in 2012, but Republicans took the governor's mansion and a supermajority in the state legislature, helped by a multimillionaire named Art Pope who poured money into the party and its candidates. After the election, McCrory put Pope in his administration's budget department and began pushing a highly ideological agenda through the state legislature, sparking a backlash that has resulted in weeks of protests at the statehouse in Raleigh.

Ausley, who ran unsuccessfully for statewide office in Florida in 2010, said Republicans across the South risk alienating voters with their hard rightward turn. Every Republican-led Southern state has rejected the federally funded expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare, she noted; in Florida, Governor Rick Scott tried to accept the funds, but his own Republican-dominated legislature blocked the move. Southern Republicans have recently decried women's entry into the workforce and advocated teaching schoolchildren about proper gender roles.

"Republican legislators are going further than the Southern public wants. There's going to be a backlash."

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


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1 posted on 06/23/2013 12:45:39 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

It seems like Republican leadership doesn’t care if the South votes for them.


2 posted on 06/23/2013 12:47:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Si Señor...


3 posted on 06/23/2013 12:47:57 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Yeah. Try the “new” blame the rich talking point. That will work in NC.

Also run on a pro gun control platform. Southerners hate guns.

What a bunch of drivel. LOL.


4 posted on 06/23/2013 12:48:37 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: nickcarraway

The GOPe considers us an embarrassment.

/ a Texan


5 posted on 06/23/2013 12:49:17 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Easily! All they have to do is take in a few million more illegals. America is already dead.


6 posted on 06/23/2013 12:50:40 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Sí, pueden.


7 posted on 06/23/2013 12:51:12 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: piytar

the new Dimocrat base just sits around watching TV. They love them some free moneyz!


8 posted on 06/23/2013 12:51:27 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

How about free catfish and hush puppies?


9 posted on 06/23/2013 12:52:07 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nickcarraway
It seems like Republican leadership doesn’t care if the South votes for them.

I remember Karl Rove literally laughing about the fact that Romney couldn't win any primary races in the south. He said they will vote for him when there are no other choices.
10 posted on 06/23/2013 12:52:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Only with fraud which today includes the registering of any warm body as a legal voter, and creative redistricting. This immigration bill is about registering enough new voters to tip the 2014 election. It is virtually impossible and even illegal to verify citizenship when someone presents themselves to register. Nor is it possible to verify who actually casts the vote from this new “registered citizen”. Republicans are fools if they allow this abomination to pass the House.


11 posted on 06/23/2013 12:52:58 PM PDT by allendale
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
The set of talking points advises progressives to make arguments "focused around fairness and accountability," whether the issue is tax reform or charter schools.

Uh, that sounds like a path to sure defeat. Take charter schools for example. How could they possibly lose an argument based upon either "fairness" or accountability?? There surely can be in the universe no institution LESS accountable than a goobermint school. On the issues of fairness, it's true that they do sometimes give preference to low income kids, but other than that, I see no way to accuse them of unfairness, either.

12 posted on 06/23/2013 12:53:13 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

If dems load the south up with a bunch of illegals - then cheat in black precincts - then yeah, they can win any place...


13 posted on 06/23/2013 12:54:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

The Obama administration is working feverishly to overcome opposition to the entrenched culture of self-sufficiency throughout parts of the rural south through food stamps and other welfare programs. They simultaneously perform voter outreach, I’m sure.


14 posted on 06/23/2013 12:54:09 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

if they can’t win it, they can surely buy it.


15 posted on 06/23/2013 12:54:17 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: Wanderer99

Yup,

add 40 million new foreigners , legalize them, and voila !

One Party State.


16 posted on 06/23/2013 12:54:29 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Happily in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own guardians.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
"Republican legislators are going further than the Southern public wants. There's going to be a backlash."

The backlash is just starting against Obama and his Secret Police Forces.

17 posted on 06/23/2013 12:59:43 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
In the coming weeks, Hanauer and Loranne Ausley, a former member of the Florida House of Representatives, plan to launch something they're calling the Southern Project, which will conduct research and formulate messages that can help Democrats win over Southern voters.

In other words, or to put it bluntly, they'll be asking Southerner's what handouts will it take to get them to vote for dems, at least those who aren't already voting dem.
18 posted on 06/23/2013 1:00:16 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Republicans need to respond with their own project, most specifically to grab blacks. Obama has done nothing for them, they know it, and are being thrown under the bus in favor of Latinos. A significant fraction of them are open to a conservative message.


19 posted on 06/23/2013 1:02:20 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: andyk

Its not really about north and south. Its about conservatives vs “moderates”. The north vs south game is just a wedge both democrats and republicans try to use.


20 posted on 06/23/2013 1:02:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Liberals are not idiots. They can both spank the monkey and pick their nose at the same time. They are natural multi-tasking nimrods.


21 posted on 06/23/2013 1:03:07 PM PDT by By and By (Dime Store New Dealers are Milquetoast and Liberal)
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To: cripplecreek

How did that work out for him?


22 posted on 06/23/2013 1:03:15 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: Wanderer99
Easily! All they have to do is take in a few million more illegals. America is already dead.

Roger that. We are almost dead now, amnesty for illegal aliens will assure that comes true.

23 posted on 06/23/2013 1:03:34 PM PDT by Mark17 (My heart is in the Philippines, and soon I will be too.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Hmmm...let’s see:
1. You can murder your baby up until the 36th month — no questions asked. We might even let you murder your baby after he is born.
2. Free Obamafones for all.
3. Enjoy your new Mexican or Muslim neighbors.
4. Enroll your son in the New Gay Scounts.
5. Let us teach your 8 year old daughter “sex is fun.”

Yeah, that’ll work.


24 posted on 06/23/2013 1:03:47 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: JCBreckenridge

Well folks in the south did vote for him but he didn’t win north or south. LOL


25 posted on 06/23/2013 1:04:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I remember Karl Rove literally laughing about the fact that Romney couldn’t win any primary races in the south. He said they will vote for him when there are no other choices.

That’s why it’s important to teach the GOP that they can’t count on votes in the general election when they run libs like HW Bush, Dole, McCain ,and Romney.


26 posted on 06/23/2013 1:07:24 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, I can’t disagree with that statement.


27 posted on 06/23/2013 1:08:30 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: cripplecreek

Maybe we should listen to Rove more.


28 posted on 06/23/2013 1:11:07 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: JCBreckenridge

rove should not be listened to...look at the election results since he has been there. rove should be shunned.


29 posted on 06/23/2013 1:12:22 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Caipirabob
Correcto. Demographics changes everything.
30 posted on 06/23/2013 1:12:51 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Caipirabob

Si Si Puede


31 posted on 06/23/2013 1:17:03 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: andyk

We need all true conservatives united in conservatism. I don’t really care where they’re from as long as they’re American. Heck, FR is based in the heart of darkness.

Personally I think stronger conservatives are made where they have to fight for it every day.


32 posted on 06/23/2013 1:17:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
I remember Karl Rove literally laughing about the fact that Romney couldn't win any primary races in the south. He said they will vote for him when there are no other choices.

That persistent fallacy that conservatives will have to vote for the RINO because they have no other place to go ignores the fact that they can--and sometimes do--go fishing on Election Day when faced with a tweeeledee-tweedledum choice.

33 posted on 06/23/2013 1:20:44 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: hal ogen

“rove should be shunned.”

You’d turn your back to him? Brave man.


34 posted on 06/23/2013 1:22:13 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
How the democrats can win the South plan:
1) Talk about gun control.
2) Talk about same-sex marriage.
3) Talk about the joys of Atheism.
4) Talk about post-birth abortion.
5) Talk about how much Southerners hate blacks.
6) Talk about all the rednecks in NASCAR
7) Talk about the need for big government.
8) Talk about the evils of the Civil War.
35 posted on 06/23/2013 1:22:37 PM PDT by Nemoque
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To: Fiji Hill

Hey, don’t blame me. I voted for Kodos.


36 posted on 06/23/2013 1:23:05 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Un Pere, Une Mere, C'est elementaire)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

.... and the fork ran away with the spoon...

I’ve heard most of the old ones, and unless you have something new to bring to the table, I think I’ll take another nap.. :)


37 posted on 06/23/2013 1:24:52 PM PDT by carlo3b (Speechless in Sugar Land)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Yep..useful idiots are everywhere.
38 posted on 06/23/2013 1:26:45 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

“Republican legislators are going further than the Southern public wants. There’s going to be a backlash.”

What a maroon. Must think Florida is the south.


39 posted on 06/23/2013 1:48:54 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
"there is a clear sense that hardworking taxpayers are getting the short end of the stick at the expense of big corporations and the wealthiest."

"there is a clear sense that hardworking taxpayers are getting the short end of the stick at the expense of big government and the politicians."

Fixed for accuracy.

40 posted on 06/23/2013 1:53:08 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Well, given the Yankee invasion from the North and the No Comprende vote coming from the other side of the borders perhaps yes.

In the first instance, just had another one show up in the neighborhood....what do you do? “I worked for a constituency firm.” A lobbyist? “Well, yes you could say that.” What did your wife do? “She worked for the Smithsonian.” Perfect...where did you live? “Alexandria Va but we already had a vacation home in North Carolina.” Nice. How did you choose this area to retire to? “Oh, we sold our home in Alexandria and were able to buy this one and put money away too. We like the no state income tax.” Great.

As far as the south of the border group, well, with our senator Rubio deciding to fly the open borders flag, we are screwed from within and from without now. I think I will start flying two Gadsden flags now rather than just the one.


41 posted on 06/23/2013 1:53:40 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I would say draw a line north of St Augustine across Florida and you are in the south. The rest of the state is a goner.


42 posted on 06/23/2013 1:55:02 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Mouton

Yep. That’s about it.


43 posted on 06/23/2013 1:59:04 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: Mouton
Florida is a unique area. Parts of N. Florida still have reb holdouts[Gainesville has long since been Berkley Red]. While as a whole, Orlando south is gone; gone Spanish.
44 posted on 06/23/2013 2:01:43 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Mouton

St. Augustine the dividing line on the Atlantic side of Florida, no doubt true. On the Gulf side the line is further south. Anything south of Levy County is gone.


45 posted on 06/23/2013 2:18:39 PM PDT by sasportas
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46 posted on 06/23/2013 2:27:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks NotYourAverageDhimmi.


47 posted on 06/23/2013 2:28:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Can Democrats Win Back the Deep South?


aka, can they set up a scam w/ Diebold machines, no voter IDs, vote multiple times and steal back the south?


48 posted on 06/23/2013 2:41:12 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (He thwarts the plans of the crafty so that their hands achieve no success...Job 5:12)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Sure

When enough of the North Eastern liberal douch bags that have destroyed their own states end up here, and continue to vote for the very communist crap here that they moved to get away from, we will be officially screwed.


49 posted on 06/23/2013 3:03:08 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Yes, if the GOP Establishment can do anything about it.


50 posted on 06/23/2013 3:12:59 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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