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What is the proper balance between privacy and security?
Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/23/2013 9:53:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 06/23/2013 9:55:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: humblegunner

Clearly the government believes they should decide, not the country,


61 posted on 06/23/2013 3:16:56 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Jim Robinson
+1
62 posted on 06/23/2013 3:33:32 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( “The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.” - Tacitus)
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To: Jim Robinson

Unfortunately, we have politicians and judges who don’t give a damn about the Constitution.


63 posted on 06/23/2013 3:43:46 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Someone with good editing tools needs to make a NSA Warrant showing EVERYONE as the target of the NSA search warrant.


64 posted on 06/23/2013 3:46:35 PM PDT by aimhigh (Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: Mastador1
About 5000 rounds?

In 30.06 backed up by .44 mag?

I'm there.
65 posted on 06/23/2013 4:39:32 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: Jim Robinson

We should err on the side of privacy, accept that we live on the brink of annihilation, and destroy Muslims at every opportunity and with great brutality. Allah’s servants should understand only that to enrage the US is to disappear in a flash and a haze of radioactive dust, and that the US will be enraged at the least slight, let alone acts of terrorism. We should not give up being a free society when the means exist to cause the extinction of those who would kill us, along with their sympathizers, and those who would seek revenge on their behalf.


66 posted on 06/23/2013 4:47:09 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT!!!!

Very very well said


67 posted on 06/23/2013 4:52:20 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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It is our elected “representatives” that are legislating and funding every infraction against our Constitutional rights.


68 posted on 06/23/2013 5:04:53 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
My basic position on this issue....and “rights” in general is...only US citizens should be afforded all the rights enumerated (or suggested) by the Constitution.

The problem with the logic of that position is that it implies that the Constitution is the source of man's rights, which it is not. The Constitution doesn't give anyone any rights, it only restricts the government's powers to infringe upon those rights which already exist. The source of all men's rights is not the people, the government, or the Constitution, it is God. It is generally held that "rights" are given by God to all men not just Americans. This is the principle of Natural Law upon which this country and the Constitution are based, and this principle is openly declared in the the Declaration of Independence which says:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

Privileges of US citizens (e.g. voting etc.) certainly can be restricted to Americans because they are granted by law. Rights, however, cannot be restricted, because they are universally given to all men by their Creator.

69 posted on 06/23/2013 5:47:59 PM PDT by old republic
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To: Jim Robinson

I would go so far to say that anyone that came to the U.S. illegally is at war with the U.S. and the citizens, as well. But that is just me.


70 posted on 06/23/2013 5:48:14 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: old republic
The Constitution doesn't give anyone any rights, it only restricts the government's powers to infringe upon those rights which already exist. The source of all men's rights is not the people, the government, or the Constitution, it is God.

Thank you!

It amazes me that so many folk, supposedly knowledgeable about our society, blow it by conflating rights with privileges.

71 posted on 06/23/2013 7:29:24 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Jim Robinson

"ERRORS CEASING TO BE DANGEROUS BE DANGEROUS WHEN IT IS PERMITTED FREELY TO CONTRAD..."

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CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

72 posted on 06/23/2013 8:21:31 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: brityank; old republic
[The source of all men's rights is not the people, the government, or the Constitution, it is God.]



Yep.
73 posted on 06/23/2013 8:27:44 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Big Red Badger

Revolt is coming.


74 posted on 06/24/2013 2:47:41 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: dagogo redux

The 2nd protects the other 9.


75 posted on 06/24/2013 2:48:16 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Profiling would work.

The current administration isn’t as concerned with possible terrorists as they are about conservatives. So using the excuse to “keep us safe”, they are going after US.


76 posted on 06/24/2013 4:52:44 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Jim Robinson

“What is the proper balance between privacy and security?”

The second amendment.


77 posted on 06/24/2013 7:25:13 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: Jim Robinson

” They’re not collecting all this info to fight terrorists. They’re collecting it to use against US!”

Exactly!


78 posted on 06/24/2013 11:46:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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