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An interview with Robert Meeropol (Delusion alert)
An interview with Robert Meeropol ^ | 15 June 2013 | Fred Mazelis

Posted on 06/19/2013 7:07:26 AM PDT by Borges

Robert Meeropol and his brother Michael are the sons of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, who were executed by the US government in June 1953 on trumped-up charges of atomic espionage on behalf of the Soviet Union. Robert, the younger of the Rosenberg sons, was six years old when his parents were put to death. The Rosenberg sons were adopted and raised by Abel and Anne Meeropol. For their entire adult lives they have campaigned to expose the importance of the Rosenberg case. In the 1970s, they successfully sued the FBI and CIA to force the release of 300,000 previously secret documents dealing with their parents.

Robert, after having earned anthropology and law degrees and practicing as a lawyer, founded the Rosenberg Fund for Children (www.rfc.org) in 1990. The Rosenberg Fund for Children, as its web site explains, “provides for the educational and emotional needs” of children whose parents have faced harassment, injury, prison or other attacks because of their political activities. The RFC is commemorating the 60th anniversary of the Rosenbergs’ execution with a program entitled “Carry It Forward: Celebrating the Children of Resistance,” at New York City’s Town Hall on Sunday, June 16 at 7 PM.

Fred Mazelis of the WSWS spoke this week with Robert Meeropol.

Fred Mazelis: Why do the names of your parents still evoke the Cold War and the anti-communist hysteria of that period? What makes June 19, 1953 an important date in the history of the 20th century?

Robert Meeropol: One of the central tenets of Cold War ideology in the US was that there was an international Communist conspiracy out to destroy our way of life, and therefore civil liberties and human rights had to take a back seat to national security. My parents’ case was proof of this equation, because they were Communists who provided the Soviet Union, according to the government, with the means to destroy us, in the form of the atom bomb. But it wasn’t as simple as that. Not everyone accepted the official story. There were also millions of people who were horrified at the execution of a young couple with two small children. There were children who thought that this could happen to their parents, and a lot of these children are still alive.

FM: Why do you think the death penalty was handed down and carried out? What is your opinion of your father’s statement: “This death sentence is not surprising. It had to be. There had to be a Rosenberg case, because there had to be an intensification of the hysteria in America to make the Korean War acceptable to the American people. There had to be hysteria and a fear sent through America in order to get increased war budgets.”

RM: In the broadest sense this is true. Certainly there had to be a Rosenberg case. At the same time, there were more narrow reasons behind the death penalty itself. It was used in an attempt to coerce cooperation. The ultimatum was, “talk or die.” My mother was held hostage. The government said to Julius, “You talk, admit your guilt, or she will die too.” So if you follow that to its logical conclusion, you can see that, in fact, they didn’t want to carry out the death penalty, at least not at first. They fully intended to reward my parents by commuting the death sentence if they cooperated, but when they didn’t cooperate, they had to show them who was boss by killing them. Behind it all was the Cold War hysteria and the political aim of whipping up support for war and repression. My parents refused to capitulate. They sacrificed their lives rather than contribute to the anti-communist hysteria. FM: Can you tell us about your parents and their generation, including the impact of the Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union, and how they were radicalized as part of a broader movement of masses of working people?

RM: Their political education started much closer to home. They looked out their windows on New York’s Lower East Side and saw poverty and oppression. They saw families being thrown out of their homes because they couldn’t pay their rent, and they saw squads of Communist Party young people move people back in, working at night and whenever they had to in order to help people defend themselves and their families.

They also saw the Soviet Union, which held itself up as the defender of the working class. They saw an international movement of working people trying to create a new society. These two sides played off each other, the convergence of the two really made the difference. The promise of the Soviet Union found an echo here. FM: What about the role of Irving R. Kaufman, who presided at the trial, and Roy Cohn, who played a major role as part of the prosecution team? Do you see them as part of an effort by the authorities to immunize themselves against charges of anti-Semitism?

RM: The job of Kaufman and Cohn was to demonstrate that there was no anti-Semitism involved in the case, because they were Jews and were presiding over the trial and seeking a death sentence for their fellow Jews. In fact, the role of Kaufman and Cohn reflected anti-Semitism and the case was used to encourage anti-Semitism while denying it. This was only five years after the end of World War II. American Jews were in many cases seeking to demonstrate their patriotism. The presence of Kaufman and Cohn indirectly showed that it was necessary for the Jewish population to prove its patriotism and its loyalty. The idea of the patriotic as opposed to the treasonous Jew assumes there is something suspect about the Jews in the first place.

FM: Do you have anything to say about the role of Ronald Radosh and others who have continued to campaign to affirm the supposed guilt of the Rosenbergs?

RM: These people are essentially apologists for the US government. To them it is much more dangerous that a few individuals like Julius Rosenberg tried to help the Soviet Union because they thought it would help the cause of peace, than that the most powerful entity on earth executed two people for something they didn’t do. Those are just such topsy-turvy priorities that it is laughable.

FM: Could you explain the work of the Rosenberg Fund for Children?

RM: On a personal level I set out to help children who I see as kindred spirits, children who suffered because of attacks on their parents in response to their parents’ activism. In the 20-odd years of its existence, the RFC has made grants totaling nearly $5 million to hundreds of children. I did some research on this and the trend in recent years shows the need for this work. In Barack Obama’s first year in office there were some 600 political arrests. In the second year this was up to 900, in the third it hit 1,300, and then, with Occupy Wall Street and other protests, there were over 8,000 political arrests in the final year of Obama’s first term. Many of those arrested have children. They are not famous, these are not big names, and their children have educational and emotional needs. The kinds of activities supported by our grants include camp, art and music lessons, school tuition, day care, therapy and the costs of travel to visit incarcerated parents. I am now on the verge of retiring. I am not going to leave this work, but I see the need to pass on responsibility. If it is going to take years and even generations to transform our society then we on the left must work to transmit our values across generations. I see my daughter Jenn’s coming assumption of leadership responsibility at the Rosenberg Fund for Children as a manifestation of that.

FM: What is the legacy of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg? Is it pertinent to the issues raised in relation to Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden? The charge of treason and of revealing “secrets” to alleged enemies is comparable to the campaign against the Rosenbergs. Today these attacks on civil liberties are part of a “global war on terror,” an open-ended conflict used to fuel superpatriotism and comparable to the anti-communist hysteria of the 1950s.

RM: The legacy of my parents is their resistance. They were confronted by the US government and told that they must lie or die, that they had to admit to being involved in atomic espionage when that was not the case. My father was involved along with a number of other young men in trying to help the Soviet Union, but he had nothing to do with the atomic bomb and he was not going to lie about it. Today, in the cases of Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden, and not only in these cases, these are young resisters, young people saying we are not going to put up with this government or any government having such awesome power to spy on the population. They will not renounce their beliefs—at least they haven’t so far, and I don’t think they will. As we confront the corporate elite and the authorities, we need more people like this. The only thing I would add is that unfortunately while we have courageous individuals, what we lack is an organized mass political force to confront the corporate enemy. That’s what is missing, at least so far.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: revisionisthistory; therosenbergs; traitors; treason; wsws
I had no idea their kids were communists as well!
1 posted on 06/19/2013 7:07:26 AM PDT by Borges
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To: wideawake

Check this out.


2 posted on 06/19/2013 7:08:50 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Bring back old Sparky...


3 posted on 06/19/2013 7:12:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Borges

They both seem to have glossed over the fall of the Soviet Union. After that there were documents released that showed the Rosenbergs WERE spies.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 7:15:16 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent

Well he pretty much admits it...”My father was involved along with a number of other young men in trying to help the Soviet Union”


5 posted on 06/19/2013 7:17:27 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

My father ratted out the Communists in his union when they rigged an election (sound familiar?). It cost him 3 years of being blackballed from every restaurant, hotel and theater in NYC. In 1949, they were tried, convicted and deported. The FBI were visitors up until 1957.

So, I have no sympathy for the Rosenbergs or their evil spawn.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 7:25:24 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Borges
So what he's saying is that his parents were treasonous, traitorous spies for the Soviet Union, but they didn't give up the bomb, so they shouldn't have been executed.

You lose, Red Bob. Treason is treason and traitors die.

7 posted on 06/19/2013 7:26:05 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Borges
Yeah right.

Bake a pie, eat a pie.

Treason is treason and Red Traitors die.

8 posted on 06/19/2013 7:59:15 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Borges
...Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, who were executed by the US government in June 1953 on trumped-up charges of atomic espionage on behalf of the Soviet Union.

BS! The evidence against the Rosenbergs was accurate, complete, and damning. They were properly convicted and executed as traitors. Following the fall of the Soviet Union, enemy documents confirmed this.

No credence should ever be given their children's statements to the contrary.

9 posted on 06/19/2013 8:11:10 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Borges
Robert Meeropol: One of the central tenets of Cold War ideology in the US was that there was an international Communist conspiracy out to destroy our way of life

Denial ain't a river.

10 posted on 06/19/2013 8:36:26 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: NTHockey

The gift of the atomic secrets to the Soviet Union contributed to the Cold War arms race.


11 posted on 06/19/2013 8:37:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Borges

WSWS = World Socialist Web Site.

Red Diaper Babies Unite!!!


12 posted on 06/19/2013 8:39:19 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Borges

N.B.: The Soviet code name for Julius Rosenberg was “Liberal”.

It should be added as a technical note that Rosenberg knew little or nothing about nuclear physics, which the Soviets already knew; but what he provided them of great value were the schematics of the essential electronics the US used to control and detonate the bomb.

This was of huge help to them, as the more accurately, to within tiny fractions of a second, the radioactive material can be slammed together to create a critical mass, the less nuclear material you have to use, the smaller the bomb, and the larger the yield.

All told, the Rosenbergs and their confederates were likely indirectly responsible for the deaths of tens or hundreds of thousands of people during the Korean war, because of the emboldened Soviet Union and China, their ally at the time.


13 posted on 06/19/2013 8:43:11 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Borges

The Rosenbergs were guilty and their involvement in leaking atomic secrets to the Russians was confirmed in the Venona intercepts, secret Soviet cables that were decripted by the US during the 1940s.


14 posted on 06/19/2013 9:04:17 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Borges

After “Venona” was released they seemed to admit the truth about their parents espionage activities. Julius “ran” a number of spies, in a number of industries


15 posted on 06/19/2013 9:38:04 AM PDT by capt B
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To: Borges

They were guilty. Good book
The Implosion Conspiracy
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=the+implosion+conspiracy&tag=mh0b-20&index=stripbooks&hvadid=1690887004&ref=pd_sl_9nqo4hersu_e


16 posted on 06/19/2013 9:56:45 AM PDT by Vinnie (][p)
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To: Borges
From Major Jordan's Diaries
17 posted on 06/19/2013 10:37:06 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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