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To: Java4Jay

I don’t understand why Cheney, for example, is so eager to call this guy a traitor.

All he released is “metadata”: information about the information.

Any decent spy from another country would already behave as if every phone was bugged, wouldn’t they?

Hell the Mafia has assumed that since 1930 or so. That’s why they meet in person at coffeeshops, etc.

So the only thing different now, is that the innocent millions of Americans now KNOW they’re being watched.

Hardly a traitorous act, it seems to me.


5 posted on 06/17/2013 9:44:19 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Traitor he’s not. Anybody with good common sense that’s been getting news off FR should suspect this crap has been going on for years.


6 posted on 06/17/2013 9:50:30 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

[[I don’t understand why Cheney, for example, is so eager to call this guy a traitor.]]

I meant ot say cheney in my last post- I beleive the reason the right is pouncing so heavily on snowdon tyryign to discredit him is because they too are scared he’s got soemthign o nthem-


9 posted on 06/17/2013 9:53:26 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Izzy Dunne
I don’t understand why Cheney, for example, is so eager to call this guy a traitor.

Where does Cheney lie on the Neo-Feudal organization chart? The serfs are in that big block labeled serfs.

11 posted on 06/17/2013 9:57:05 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: Izzy Dunne

Cheney, if he really believes in the program, committed a HUGE political error IMO.

By stamping the imprimateur of the Dark Lord on this, he has virtually compelled every Democrat to vote yea on the Rand Paul “Repeal the NSA” bill.

Also he way overreached by claiming the NSA program “could have prevented 9-11”. That falls into the category of what Don Rumsfeld used to call “unknown unknowables”.


12 posted on 06/17/2013 9:59:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Izzy Dunne

“Did you see that guy about the thing? Yeah, okay.”


14 posted on 06/17/2013 10:32:14 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I think you are starting to realize that Cheney is actually just another flavor of tyrant, just as the Bush family is full on tyrants. My advice for Cheney and his new heart is make amends for past decisions by traveling to Syria and assisting McCain’s buddies against the Assad tyrant!


22 posted on 06/17/2013 11:13:35 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Izzy Dunne

I remember reading things by Rumsfeld and Cheney during the formulation of the Patriot Act which sounded like what Obama is doing to take over the government. Cheney said an attack on DC (perhaps in a footnote)would be the time for the president to dismiss the Constitution, Congress, etc. and become like a dictator. Nothing new there, except Obama may beat them to it with far worse results. I expect there are other things Cheney/Rumsfeld do not want exposed to the public, as does Bolton, Boehner, Mukasey, Mueller, etc. I am not making this up, but please don’t ask for verification. I may have it somewhere in a stack of boxes but don’t feel like looking. Maybe some one else does.


33 posted on 06/17/2013 1:53:49 PM PDT by charlie72
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To: Izzy Dunne

Cheney is just playing a role. He has never ever addressed any of Snowdens accusations.


34 posted on 06/17/2013 2:57:05 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Izzy Dunne
All he released is “metadata”: information about the information.

It does seem that way. Well said, iimssm.

47 posted on 06/18/2013 5:41:10 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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