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To: Girlene; xzins
Didn't Feinstein say last week, after the leak, that they are only storing "metadata"?

Unless you are using an old rotary dial analog phone, every kind of electronic communication is "data". Phone conversations are changed from analog to digital before they leave your phone. When it is recorded it is recorded as "data".

They are not only picking up every call on their servers, but they are storing every conversation as "data".

They have the capability of storing every electronic conversation. That is why they are building that huge data storehouse in Utah.

George Orwell had no idea that when Big Brother took over he could not only listen to conversations in real time, but go back years and pick up conversations that you have long ago forgotten you even had.

47 posted on 06/15/2013 5:52:22 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: P-Marlowe; Girlene

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/

You MUST read this article about the Utah Data Center.


50 posted on 06/15/2013 5:56:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: P-Marlowe
They have the capability of storing every electronic conversation. That is why they are building that huge data storehouse in Utah.

I have read it will have 5 Yottabytes of storage. That's 5 x 10 ** 24. That is a mind boggling amount of storage capability.

George Orwell had no idea that when Big Brother took over he could not only listen to conversations in real time, but go back years and pick up conversations that you have long ago forgotten you even had.

People need to quickly come to grasps with the fact that so much information about everyone is a recipe for a true and violent police state.

This information is pure power: In the coming years, it will confirm the adage, that power corrupts, and absolutely power corrupts absolutely.

Somehow all this information stored by the NSA must be destroyed (through legal means.)

There is absolutely no justification for any society to have it's government maintain such all encompassing information on it's citizens.

The slimy politicians will be tempted to play God with our lives. It will lead absolutely lead to tyranny.

81 posted on 06/15/2013 7:04:22 PM PDT by sand88
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To: P-Marlowe

I wondered about that. I thought the phone calls would be digital data. William Binney talked about this in regards to emails (see http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/13854-nsa-whistleblower-%E2%80%9Cevery-american-is-under-surveillance%E2%80%9D ) and Dennis Kucinich also talked about this (see http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/3284978-the-real-scandal-surrounding-the-petraeus-resignation ). But I wondered if this also included digital files of phone conversations.


120 posted on 06/15/2013 8:30:52 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: P-Marlowe

“....They are not only picking up every call on their servers, but they are storing every conversation as “data”....”
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And it would also be just as easy for them to pick up and record every single ‘ping’ your cell phone makes and the specific cell tower(s) it pinged off. Recording for later, or real time, reading of the exact location(s) of your uniquely identifiable cell phone at any time or over any requested period of time.

And it must comfort us all that Obamba’s operatives are the ones hiring, or approving the hiring, of each new analyst or tech.


122 posted on 06/15/2013 8:33:52 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: P-Marlowe

The indexing system is probably a Yankee White secure...


170 posted on 06/16/2013 1:34:37 PM PDT by Shady (The Truth will set us free....WE KNOW THE TRUTH!)
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