Posted on 06/15/2013 2:53:18 PM PDT by BigReb555
Taking a guided tour on horseback is moving and brought many a tear. . .especially when the tour guide read a very poignant letter from a soldier to his wife.
If you do not know, read some history.
Whether or not you agree with the South’s complaints. They had complaints.
Unless you suggest that they decided on Secession because they were bored and had nothing better to do?
Wrong again.
the slavers were the Central Government! The slavrocrisy wasn't satisfied with controlling the government - which they had for most of its then 70 years. At a time when slavery was losing its viability in most of the rest of the world the slavers insisted on expanding their interests and to hell with any other opinion.
The slavers had a temper tantrum when Lincoln was elected and acted like democrats always act - boorish fools.
So were the colonists. But they won.
Though some Southern leaders wanted to continue with a long-term guerilla war, Christian compassion ruled that out for many Southern leaders.
Oh please. More like common sense and no desire to prolong the fighting.
Only those who get to teach their interpretation of the facts in Government schools.
Confederate wannabes have been teaching their own fairy tales almost from the moment the firing stopped.
I've read a lot of history, but none of those historians have been blessed with, shall we say, your imaginative view of the period. So please tell be what oppression you believed they were fighting against.
Unless you suggest that they decided on Secession because they were bored and had nothing better to do?
No, they decided to rebel to protect their institution of slavery from what they saw as the threat against its expansion posed by the Lincoln administration's opposition to it. But that is hardly oppression.
John Lincoln Clem (August 13, 1851 – May 13, 1937) was a United States Army general who served as a drummer boy in the Union Army in the American Civil War. He gained fame for his bravery on the battlefield, becoming the youngest noncommissioned officer in Army history. He retired from the Army in 1915, having attained the rank of Brigadier General in the Quartermaster Corps. When advised he should retire, he requested to be allowed to remain on active duty until he became the last veteran of the Civil War still on duty in the Armed Forces. By special act of Congress on August 29, 1916, he was promoted to Major General one year after his retirement from the Army.
For those who were brought up in the 1950's and watched Disney, that would be Johnny Shiloh
Well, there was that plan to burn down New York in 1864.
FWIW, "Copper" a not-very-good fictional TV series based on that event, is coming back for a second season next week.
With Moochie in the leading role.
Yeap, good old Toby Tyler.
Kevin Corcoran. The Clark Gable of the Disney movie machine. He was in Ol' Yeller, played Pollyanna's buddy, and was the youngest kid in Swiss Family Robinson.
The fires were actually set, so it wasn't just a plan, but the conflagration didn't materialize.
It was tied in with Lincoln's reelection. The Confederates had been willing to wait and see whether a peace candidate like McClellan could win, and when he didn't, agents struck.
BBC America. The new season starts next Sunday I think. I don't know if they're replaying last year ahead of time. As shows go it's no Justified but it has its moments. Compared to the crap on the networks it's a work of art.
Oh I bet that was lovely. I am a bit grim on a horse, however - probably not good for me. Cowboy at heart but not in reality.
The Confederates were — in the end — outgunned, outmanned, and — the killer — out-technologied.
So were the colonists. But they won.
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Different wars. Different facts. Bottom line: I am glad the Colonists won. I am sorry that the South lost, and most (though, apparently, not you) give them credit for giving it a noble effort with no lack of commitment or courage on their part.
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Though some Southern leaders wanted to continue with a long-term guerilla war, Christian compassion ruled that out for many Southern leaders.
Oh please. More like common sense and no desire to prolong the fighting.
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Okay. Will not argue that point. Probably a bit of both.
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Only those who get to teach their interpretation of the facts in Government schools.
Confederate wannabes have been teaching their own fairy tales almost from the moment the firing stopped.
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Fairy tales abound on both sides, if you wish to speak in those terms. The biggest of which is that Robert E. Lee was a traitor.
So, alas, we have come full circle and gotten nowhere!
No, they decided to rebel to protect their institution of slavery from what they saw as the threat against its expansion posed by the Lincoln administration’s opposition to it. But that is hardly oppression.
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Hmmm. I am shocked. ... SHOCKED that there is nothing in your convenient abridgement of the facts about States rights.
We are not going to get anywhere here.
You have made up your mind that the South was wrong to opt for Secession.
I, on the other hand, believe they were well within their rights.
And, no, it was not all about slavery, but, yes, it was in large part about slavery. I am not thrilled to admit that part, but I do.
Nonetheless: Slavery or no, the South was within its rights to opt for secession.
Else the Declaration and Constitution were rather odd in permitting secession only one time (i.e., from England), but after that, mandatory inclusion in a union voluntarily entered in the first place.
The slavers had a temper tantrum when Lincoln was elected and acted like democrats always act - boorish fools.
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Interesting interpretation of history. Let me think about that one!
Different kind of men. Different kind of motivations.
I am sorry that the South lost, and most (though, apparently, not you) give them credit for giving it a noble effort with no lack of commitment or courage on their part.
No, I don't give them credit for jack. Their cause was not noble. Their courage was wasted.
Fairy tales abound on both sides, if you wish to speak in those terms. The biggest of which is that Robert E. Lee was a traitor.
Oh I've got a bigger one for you. The persistent claim that the South did not rebel over slavery.
The colonies didn’t secede from Great Britain - they openly rebelled against the crown.
I don’t think that anyone here said that no one could secede - just that they way the slavers tried to do it wasn’t jake.
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