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To: henkster
Not saying this is positive, but a case where the judge is following the law. Improper command influence must have consequences, just as an unlawful search and seizure does in civilian courts. The judge may not like the decision he reaches, but if the law clearly compels him to do so, then I’m OK with his decision. I will gladly take a judge who follows the law rather than makes, repeals, disregards or ignores the law as it exists.

So if a commander wants a defendant to be let off, all he has to do is perform an instance of "improper command influence"?

A better response to "improper command influence" might be to immediately transfer the commander.

52 posted on 06/14/2013 3:38:15 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625; cherry
So if a commander wants a defendant to be let off, all he has to do is perform an instance of "improper command influence"?

A better response to "improper command influence" might be to immediately transfer the commander.

I don't know where you would transfer "commander" 0bama in this instance.....or Commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen Amos - what are you going to make him Commandant of the Army? or on the JCS?

How about we punish those commanders by stripping them of command and unceremoniously kick them to the curb?.

By the logic of trying these individuals anyway, we should immediately condemn Zimmerman then. I mean after all, the chief of the Executive Branch of .fedgov came out and sided against Zimmerman. Even after the police stated there was not evidence enough to arrest Zimmerman, the circus continued and was unduly influenced the point Zimmerman can't receive a fair trial.

In some of these [the military ones] cases, charges were only brought after Amos et al went on their tour throughout the Marine Corps saying he wanted individuals punished.

Not that he wanted allegations taken seriously, and the accused investigated and tried if the evidence was there......but that he wanted examples.

Same thing with 0bama.

Last I checked we still had the right to a fair trial - the least we could do is make sure the folks that defend those rights receive the same.

If someone is accused of sexual assault, the matter should be investigated and they should be tried. If guilty, declared so and severely punished. But it is a GROSS perversion of justice for the top level commanders to declare the outcome and influence the trial.

The converse to your argument is if a commander didn't like someone he could accuse the individual and then order the court martial to find them guilty......

stop for a moment and take into consideration Catholics, Jews, and Protestants were declared extremists in a recent Army briefing, or that a soldier is facing repercussion for having Tea Party bumper stickers on his car. Now put some pampered homo-loving sashaying prince in charge of a command. Your solution is to transfer him to another command he can destroy.

"It is better that ten guilty ones escape than one innocent suffer." William Blackstone

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And further cherry......I'm getting beyond pissed off with your constant need to trash and slander the military. From saying they all support every last thing that comes out of 0bama's mouth to accusing the majority of being willing to turn on American citizens. Because the 100% truth and fact is the exact opposite.

In fact, at one of the Marine Corps officer schools, the students are required to participate in a Tactical Decision Game in which they are hypothetically given a subordinate unit and munitions and orders to lock down and establish a mile perimeter around a federal building in a hypothetical American city..............any student that states they would do more than secure and guard the fed building itself FAILS the event. The students are further lectured on their Constitutional OBLIGATION to REFUSE UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDERS and to PREVENT such from happening.

But you can continue with your mental masturbation believing that we're all a bunch of jackboots waiting to rape anyone in sight ans subject the American populace.

Being a dumbass is your Constitutional Right and I won't jackboot you from it.

92 posted on 06/15/2013 12:29:03 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: PapaBear3625

“A better response to “improper command influence” might be to immediately transfer the commander.”

Do we have any bases in Kenya?/s;)


93 posted on 06/15/2013 2:10:26 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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