FUBO.
Needs repeating.
Obama may be the only person in history to be in a position he is less qualified for than Feinstein as chariman of anything at all to do with intelligence.
I contacted Verizon today because i lost the number to someone i called last week and needed to call back, and thought they would have a record of outgoing calls they could share with me (a previous phone company did). They said they did not provide this option, though their call assistant (if you opt in for it) would provide a list of all incoming calls. I lightheartedly told the support person that maybe the NSA had a record, and that he could laugh at that, and thanked him for his help.
When the Obama government says they collect and use communications data to facilitate terrorism investigations and uncover possible terrorist threats most people think they mean they are looking for rage filled muslim crazies determined to kill Americans.
But when administration authorities, like Barack Obama, Janet Napolitano speak of potential terrorists they don’t just mean muslim crazies, or maybe they don’t mean muslim crazies at all.
But they do mean military vets, gun owners, patriots, anti-abortion and anti-homo Christians, Constitutionalists, advocates of smaller government, people who oppose socialism and communism, etc. - what Obama calls “Bitter Clingers” but what we think of as solid, loyal, American citizens.
If any FReeper has not watched the 12.5 minute video of Mr. Snowden explaining what and why he did this, you owe it to yourself to watch here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yB3n9fu-rM
I found him to be:
intelligent
authentic
brave
patriotic
I urge you to watch it and form your own conclusion. What he reveals is downright scary.
The only treasonous acts I’m seeing is our own government spying on innocent citizens under the false pretense of preventing a terrorist attack.
The acts of the NSA itself are terroristic.
I bet Snowden surrenders at some point. He’s got to have thought this out pretty well as to how this would ultimtely go down. Therefore, he will actually DARE the Feds to send him to trial so he can then seek the opportunity plead NOT GUILTY and COMPLETELY talk and show the world about EVERYTHING ELSE HE KNOWS that’s going on.
What’s the point in spying on citizens when the they let through terrorists that have killed over 3000 people in the last 20 years? Something ain’t working here.
I applaud Snowden for an act of Patriotism
Act of treason my butt. The guy deserves a medal.
Really? I'd be interested in that assessment if ever it sees the light of day. And I'd be interested in an honest assessment of the effectiveness of this very comprehensive and expensive program that I pay for. Because right now all the flailing and posturing is being done in a near total absence of hard data.
It's tough to find an honest broker. Congress, populated as it is by people who by definition have a political stake in the game, is as good as we're likely to find, unfortunately, because I'm not entirely confident the lot of them can find their own cars in the parking lot on a regular basis.
On the one hand we have young Mr. Snowden, a fellow of libertarian tendencies if his political contributions are any guide, convinced that the danger is such that it's worth betraying an oath, fleeing his country, and very likely wrecking his life to present to the public. On the other, we have a ruling class populated by political hacks such as Feinstein who are charged with our safety even if they have to put us in straitjackets and chains to effect it, and oh by the way, our safety appears to depend highly on their re-election. And so there we are between Scylla and Charybdis, stuck in a murky whirlpool with no safety or liberty, either one, in sight.
I'm going to keep my peace for now and try to separate the real information from the tremendous smoke screen both of the sides are spouting. That might take awhile, but it's the nature of the beast.
ATTENTION PREPPERS. Imagine this scenario.
Snowden has said that they are not only scooping up phone records but are also data mining internet use, bank accounts, and credit card use.
Now take your average concerned citizen who is worried about the direction this country is headed and decides to prep. Concerned citizen reads blogs and websites on how to prep. Concerned citizen removes money from checking account or uses charge card to purchase preps which includes freeze dried and bulk foods.
Concerned citizen is now high on the government radar after said government data mines all of his preps. Why you may ask? Because a while ago, by Executive Order, Obama made it a crime to hoard food.
Concerned citizen has just been made a target for law enforcement because of two UNCONSTITUTIONAL acts of government violating the Fourth Amendment.
One of many acts of treason he has committed.
Of course, we all know where Feinstein is coming from, and the dark, evil nature of her mindset. The differences between her ilk and the productive, decent citizens of the USA are not reconcilable.
Supposedly, our government is one of the people, for the people, and by the people. We elect people to represent the groups of citizens in our districts in the US House; we elect other people to represent our states in the US Senate. Theoretically, we elect a person to preside over our executive branch of government.
Given this, the people, the citizens, are the employers at the highest level.
The state governments, also hired by the people, are the next level of employer over the federal employees.
And the people in the federal government are the lowest level of employees under "We The People".
That's the contract. And it has been breached more or less from the beginning, but never so blatantly as with this current bunch.
The federal government waging war against the people of the USA, even if it is just a cold war of surveillance, is the highest form of treason.
While they call for the extradition of Snowden, I call for the impeachment of Hussein Obama.
What exactly has Mr. Snowden done other than blow the whistle on the renegade 0bama regime? How is that treason? I’d be honored to shake his hand! He’s a Patriot!
Has anyone whispered to Feinstein not to tick this guy off? He hasn't even begun to talk yet.
I guess Feinstein considers U.S. citizens the enemy being aided.