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1 posted on 06/10/2013 3:30:15 AM PDT by markomalley
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It’ll be open season on any young man wearing a Boy Scout uniform from now on. Talk about an invitation for bullying. Gay or not, Boy Scouts will never be anything but gay.


2 posted on 06/10/2013 3:40:44 AM PDT by albie
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Boy Scouts’ decision on gays tests loyalty of members

That's funny, I thought the vote itself was a test of loyalty of leadership, current members, or corporate sponsors and good press? The leadership decided against the membership.
3 posted on 06/10/2013 3:47:30 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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It doesn’t test anything except the stupidity and gullibility of the American people.

And they’ve flunked the test.

Sorry, that one’s over.


4 posted on 06/10/2013 4:16:09 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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BSA lost me and the Boy Scouts were HUGE in my life as a young man... never again.

LLS


5 posted on 06/10/2013 4:35:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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It won’t be a problem if all the current leaders quit. There will be plenty of homosexual men to replace them. That will give the scout bigwigs what they wanted.


6 posted on 06/10/2013 4:36:16 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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I withdrew my grandson the next meeting after the announcement, as did a dozen others. The Scout leader for the troop is still trying to decide what to do. He is a good Christian man and the troop is affiliated with a local church. They still like the IDEA of Scouts. I think some are hoping it won’t really change.


7 posted on 06/10/2013 4:46:25 AM PDT by Roses0508
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decision on gays tests loyalty of members

B.S.
Loyalty is a two-way street. The leadership failed their loyalty test.

8 posted on 06/10/2013 4:50:10 AM PDT by grobdriver
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IOW what they are really asking is who are you loyal too? The BSA’s new pro-gay agenda or GOD’s WORD?
9 posted on 06/10/2013 4:53:24 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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WTF were they thinking when they sold out?

The result was predictable enough——were they actually trying to destroy the scouts?


11 posted on 06/10/2013 4:57:36 AM PDT by Venturer
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By the end of next year there will be 2 separate “Boy Scout” groups. The current one that is overrun and run by homosexuals and a new one formed by parents children, church's and other that will reflect the ideals and principles that the original Boy Scouts once had.
13 posted on 06/10/2013 5:04:22 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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I was once a Boy Scout and believed in what I was taught...and still do.

If I were a grandfather I would urge my grandchildren to take their boys out of the program.

It seems to me that there will be two waves of reaction: 1) what is going on now and 2) what will happen once the second part is adopted, i.e., gay men as scoutmasters. And you just know that’s in the works.


18 posted on 06/10/2013 5:13:04 AM PDT by OldPossum
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The gays got what they wanted. BSA leadership failed their own Eagle Scout test, setting a terrible example for the kids.

Now, participation will drindle into nothing. Will any openly gays actually join? Probably verry, very few. But that was never the goal, was it? The goal was to bring BSA down.

Just like the Republican Party needs to be replaced, so does BSA. The real Boy Scouts and the real Republicans, those who want to live by their principles, must regroup and reestablish themselves.

19 posted on 06/10/2013 5:14:33 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Second American Revolution)
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One bit of error in these scouts’ thinking - the new policy is already de facto in force NOW.

Don’t wait until Jan 1 to separate yourselves from the abomination. Do it NOW!


20 posted on 06/10/2013 5:14:45 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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Boy Scout Oath

On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law...

= = =

For the Boy Scouts to accept “openly gay” members means that they are to accept homosexual behavior. This is incompatable with “To do my duty to God”.

One cannot remain a scout and fight the recent change from within, because then one wouldn’t “obey the Scout Law”.

Recitation of the Boy Scout oath now makes one a hypocrite.


21 posted on 06/10/2013 5:16:46 AM PDT by kidd
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Here is how we are dealing with it at the moment. My son is Life and won’t be Eagle probably until after January. The actual wording of the policy change simply says, “No one will be excluded on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone.”

Well, we have never excluded anyone from our Christian troop as long as they understand that they will abide by our rules, be a part of our devotionals and abide by our Christian teaching.

Our troop’s line in the sand will come when they figure out how to implement and enforce this policy. If the mandate comes down from the BSA that we have to compromise our troop’s language, teaching, or any of our principles, then our troop will sever our ties with BSA.

We have contacted the Chickasaw council and asked them to clarify how this policy will actually work. They don’t know. They said they will get back to us.

We know it is a slippery slope and we are keeping an eye on how this plays out.


23 posted on 06/10/2013 5:29:18 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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25 posted on 06/10/2013 5:38:24 AM PDT by narses
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I am loyal to God, loyal to the Constitution of the United States, loyal to my wife and my family, and loyal to the traditional values of BSA. When it comes to a loyalty test, I will pass. As for loyalty to today’s BSA as they betray their Oath or loyalty to our current government as it betrays the Constitution, I don’t see loyalty to evil as positive.


27 posted on 06/10/2013 5:56:26 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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"...while top officials at the Assemblies of God denomination are predicting a “mass exodus” from Scouting and have formed Royal Rangers, a group for boys “that operates with values consistent to that of the BSA prior to today’s change.”

This reporter needs to do more research. Royal Rangers has been around more than 50 years - it was not formed in response to this latest issue with the BSA.

30 posted on 06/10/2013 7:02:34 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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The BSA leadership remands me of the GOP leadership -spineless...


44 posted on 06/10/2013 8:24:54 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Homo or Hetero sexuality, at least the practice or execution pertaining to the behaviors thereof have NEVER had any place in the Scouting movement. No sexual behavior is tolerated, no one-on-one contact, even talking outside of the clear view and hearing of others is permitted. This has been the policy for a long time. There are clear rules and they are enforced.

It is not a sin, nor is it offensive to God in any way to be shouldered with same sex attraction. It is the behaviors, the acting out, the succumbing to the temptation this causes that is the sinful, disordered problem. Same sex attraction is a heavy cross to bear, especially in a culture where everything is dripping with sexual innuendo and soft core pornography is portrayed as mainstream.

The Church teaches to love the sinner while hating the sin. It could well be that those with same sex attraction have been commissioned by God Himself for a higher purpose than procreation. It could be that the single life for these individuals is meant for complex research, free from the distraction of the domestic family life. It could be that these people are meant for much much more. Nobody wants to hear about this. Nobody wants to think about this. Yet hardly anybody knows precisely what God’s will is for their lives either. The sexually (if you can call it that) active homosexuals have too much Pride (Hubris) to consider another alternative except to act out on their attraction. In the end, they use others for pleasure, twisting what should rightfully be filial love, the love that one has for a brother or sister in Christ or a best friend into something perverted and disordered. They care only about themselves and their gratification, how they can use another to get what they want.

So long as the behaviors of same sex attraction can be kept out of the BSA the organization may continue to thrive. There are plenty of people with same sex attraction that do not practice the perverted resulting behaviors. They do not consider themselves lapdog media or hollywood fashioned homosexuals. As long as these folks, along with vigilant heterosexuals volunteer in Scouting, the program has a chance. This is one way that I can see the continued use of Morally Straight to be used in the Oath, and Reverent in the Law.

The fact is that boys need Scouting. It may be that those with same sex attraction need the program more than anyone.

Sorry for the long post.
My $0.02


55 posted on 06/10/2013 1:57:25 PM PDT by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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