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To: little jeremiah
Thanks for the ping. Also read the first installment of this earlier.

IMO, the value of this point is to be found in the fact that the Won "attended" Columbia as a foreign student and not as Obama.

The author states he might have, Only if he was an exotic Indonesian foreign student transferring into a college that desperately wanted to claim an ethnically and globally diverse student body.

That is no doubt true, in which case any inquiry should refer to Soetero instead of Obama.

Clearly, worse for the Obots that no one recalls Obama would be that many recall the foreign student stoner Soetero.

190 posted on 06/09/2013 4:11:41 PM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." This from a guy who never had a real job and his family starved.)
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To: frog in a pot

Maybe someone or ones on FR know from having better brains than me, when Zero started using the name 0bama instead of Soetoro. I wonder what he used at Occidental; I remember quotes from, I think “Dreams” saying something about that, but “Dreams” lies.

Remember the fellow student, I believe his name is John Drew, who wrote one or two lenghty articles about what he remembers? How 0bama was a hardcore commie, and hung out with Pakistani foreign students, and drove around in expensive cars and fine clothes and appeared to be some rich Pakistani’s boyfriend?

I think he mentioned what name Zero was using then.


191 posted on 06/09/2013 4:14:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: frog in a pot

Okay, I just did a search and couldn’t find anything on FR but here’s a search result, will look shortly and see if I come up with anything:

http://www.ask.com/web?q=John+Drew++Occidental&o=APN10505&l=dis&prt=NIS&chn=retail&geo=US&ver=19&gct=sb&qsrc=2869


192 posted on 06/09/2013 4:17:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: frog in a pot

Excerpts from, it looks clear that he was using hte name Barack 0bama while in Occidental, I’ll post another link or two so people can delve if they want to.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/09/interview-obama-had-marxist-vision-for-us-at-occidental-college/

LP; “How long did you have an association with Obama?”

Dr. Drew; “It is kind of complex, the actual time I spent with Obama was sort of brief and limited, but he was part of my social sphere in the sense I knew his roommate at the time, Chandoo, and Obama was a member of the Democratic Socialist Alliance at Occidental and my girlfriend, Caroline Boss was the co-president of that organization.”

LP; “Democratic Socialist Alliance?”

Dr. Drew; “Yes, that was the Marxist student association on campus, Caroline hung up a huge banner of Karl Marx where the students met at the Occidental College Quad. She and I were pretty intense Marxists we had been involved in about a two-year relationship and she was the one who introduced me to Barack Obama, she knew him better then I did. I wouldn’t be saying he was a Marxist/Socialist revolutionary if it was just based with my face to face talk
with him, my comments are based on knowing Chandoo, having known Caroline and the Marxist Professors and that whole culture.”

snip

LP; “How many actual face to face meetings did you have with Obama?”

Dr. Drew; “I never had face to face after Christmas and in Partolo Valley California which is near Stanford. I basically spent the day with him, Chandoo, and Caroline Boss, I was visiting Boss from Cornell where I was studying. I
graduated ahead of them but I had come back for the trip to be with Caroline. We hung out with Obama and Chandoo for that day and went out to lunch then we ended up arguing pretty late in the evening about Marxist and politics.
Whether or not there would be a revolution, a Communist style revolution in the United States. The key takeaway there is that I may have been one of the first people in the world to confront Barack Obama’s kind of silly belief,
Marxist idea that there was going to be an inevitable Communist revolution coming to the United States. I feel in my heart that I had persuaded him that that wasn’t in the cards and it wasn’t going to happen and at the end of that time he believed me. I think a bunch of us, Marxist Communist style people were turned off by a Communist style revolution I think that Obama would have heard that from someone else eventually, but from his reaction, I think I was the first person that he could identify as an ally, and a friend and supporter who sincerely believes that there would never be a Communist style revolution. That debate I think helped Obama intellectually, but it helped seal the end of my romantic relationship with Marxist.”

LP; “Obama was a student there the whole time?”

Dr. Drew; “Yes he was a student at Occidental College and he was taking classes from Roger Boesche, who was a political theorist on campus. Roger was definitely a Socialist. Most of the students followed him as a Marxist revolutionary, but he was kind of precise with that and did not see himself as a Marxist. I would say that 100% of the students considered him to be a Marxist/Socialist.”


195 posted on 06/09/2013 5:10:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: frog in a pot; Fred Nerks

Oh, here’s an excerpt from another article, seems like the same interview as above, apparently Drew does not remember what last name Zero used, but he was using the first name Barry:

http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/09/interview-obama-had-marxist-vision-for-us-at-occidental-college/2/

LP: “Do you know or did any one say he had a Visa when he was going to Occidental?”

Dr. Drew; “That I don’t have any knowledge of I don’t I called him Barry, but I don’t remember if he was introduced as Barry Soetoro or Barry Obama. I just remember I called him Barry and I don’t know anything about his citizen
status.”

And here’s something interesting later down the interview, of course it is not independently verified, yet interesting nonetheless, I’m wondering about the book “The Bridge” he mentions, I don’t remember it:

LP: “Did Obama ever throw money around when he was with Chandoo?”

Dr. Drew; “He hung with Chandoo, but the impression I had with Obama was that they were both very wealthy. I thought that Barack Obama was a descendent from royalty from the way he carries himself. It did turn out that he did spend his summers on the grounds of the palace of the sultan of Jakarta in Indonesia. According to David Remnick,(“The Bridge, Alfred A. Knopf, 2010, page 104”), that is where Obama would spend his summers. So he actually did
grow up on the grounds of an Indonesian Palace. Through his step-father, Lolo Soertoro, he actually had ties to the royal family.” (See addition below(2).)


199 posted on 06/09/2013 5:20:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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