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To: TADSLOS; BillyBoy; Beowulf9; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”Weasel words. The language of choice in DC.”

I am convinced that they all the believe the Dems are correct when they say that the GOP cannot (no chance to) win a POTUS election unless they convince Hispanics that they are for amnesty.

Off year elections like 2010 and 2014 yes, but not the POTUS years 2008, 2012, 2016.

That is why we see Rubio, Rand and Ryan all talking amnesty.

But of course we know that supporting amnesty is no sure path to the WH, exhibit A McCain.

40 posted on 06/09/2013 8:26:00 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
I am convinced that they all the believe the Dems are correct when they say that the GOP cannot (no chance to) win a POTUS election unless they convince Hispanics that they are for amnesty.

Meanwhile, I've seen two polls of LEGAL Hispanics that show them against amnesty by roughly 2-to-1 (60-32, e.g.).

41 posted on 06/09/2013 8:46:29 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE --)
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To: sickoflibs; TADSLOS; BillyBoy; Beowulf9; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; Liz; kabar; stephenjohnbanker; ...
But of course we know that supporting amnesty is no sure path to the WH, exhibit A McCain.

Indeed, McCain was and is a full-blown amnesty zealot.

In fact, support for amnesty, at best, might reduce the GOP candidate's losing margin of Hispanics, but even that is far from clear. I think it is true that Dem POTUS candidates benefit from amnesty promises.

GOP share of Hispanic vote in POTUS elections since 1980 SOURCE:

1980: 38 percent
1984: 37 percent
1988: 30 percent (after the 1986 amnesty!)
1992: 29 percent
1996: 23 percent
2000: 36 percent
2004 (GWB's second term, in which he pushed hard for amnesty): The "official" number is 43 percent, but almost all the polls were under 40%.
2008: 32 percent
2012: 28 percent

42 posted on 06/10/2013 2:28:22 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: sickoflibs; TADSLOS; BillyBoy; Beowulf9; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy

” I am convinced that they all the believe the Dems are correct when they say that the GOP cannot (no chance to) win a POTUS election unless they convince Hispanics that they are for amnesty.”

Yeah, Democrats are just showing how to win, because they really care.......


46 posted on 06/10/2013 10:32:29 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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