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1 posted on 06/06/2013 3:09:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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"My own understanding is that the NSA routinely collects millions of domestic-to-domestic phone records. It does not do anything with them unless there is a need to search through them for lawful purposes."

That's like searching millions of domestic homes, cars, and persons, and not doing anything with what they find unless there is a need to for "lawful" purposes. Used to be that evidence obtained without a warrant was not admissible.
2 posted on 06/06/2013 3:14:09 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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“Caviar?....portabella?..Stasi?”


3 posted on 06/06/2013 3:14:45 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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Just heard on FOX that the WaPo is reporting aprogram called prism that makes the Verizon phone records look like nothing


4 posted on 06/06/2013 3:15:19 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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And yet still American lives were lost in terrorist attacks on Ft. Hood, Boston, and Benghazi. Strikes that our national security offices knew about in advance. So much for the lie that this is to make us safer.

Obama already surrendered the war on terror. This is data mining and nothing else.


5 posted on 06/06/2013 3:20:13 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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And the NSA isn't just collecting the things we say. It's also tracking what we buy and where we go.

Uh, now look, that five-speed musical vibrator was for a friend, all right?

7 posted on 06/06/2013 3:25:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Well, I know now where the idea for “Person of Interest” on CBS came from.


8 posted on 06/06/2013 3:35:21 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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have to wonder just how many people are being blackmailed


12 posted on 06/06/2013 4:09:21 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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“It’s the largest database ever assembled in the world”

Isn’t that what that dingbat congresswoman said...
“Obama knows everything about everybody...”


16 posted on 06/06/2013 4:14:53 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Remember: The NSA Utah Data Center will capture every digital phone call as a bit stream. With the log data and the algorithm by which to search the stream, they can tap the call without a warrant.


17 posted on 06/06/2013 4:18:08 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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"Why? Because you made a phone call!
19 posted on 06/06/2013 4:20:16 PM PDT by cornelis
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reset
geting pushed closer.


21 posted on 06/06/2013 4:23:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” — Winston Churchill


24 posted on 06/06/2013 4:28:09 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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And the left went nuts at the mere suggestion that the feds might soy on what books you are checking out of the public library.


27 posted on 06/06/2013 4:41:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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Every American is now a suspected Terrorist, you just haven't been caught yet.
If you disagree with being IRS'd and Tapped then you have something to hide and should be
dealt with, with the Iron fist of Obama/Holder, including your entire family.
29 posted on 06/06/2013 4:52:07 PM PDT by MaxMax
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I’d hate to be “that guy” but back when Bush was pushing the Patriot Act, a lot of people were attacked for opposing it.

Back then I thought, what happens if Hillary (I didn’t even know who Obummer was at the time) becomes President? But a lot of so called conservatives foamed at the mouth, squashed dissent, and pushed these government powers down our throats in a fit of post-911 hysteria.

Now we are reaping the rewards of their shortsightedness.


30 posted on 06/06/2013 4:54:46 PM PDT by frickin_frackin
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When my paternal grandfather, who left Russia at the tail end of the Revolution to gain freedom for himself and his then-future kids, went back to visit his remaining family in 1969, every single conversation of import was done via a long walk outside - and away from benches on the street or streetlights.

I fear that we are going to be reduced to the same here. There are so many laws and regulations of which we are not even aware, that every single person probably breaks the law several times a day. Now they have that much more leverage on us. That reminds me of Ayn Rand’s quote from “Atlas Shrugged”:

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We WANT them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted — and you create a nation of law-breakers — and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”


31 posted on 06/06/2013 4:55:35 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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Nowhere in this article did I read ‘Facebook’ or ‘Twitter’. Why protect them?


32 posted on 06/06/2013 5:03:30 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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Valerie Jarrett.

5.56mm

41 posted on 06/06/2013 6:06:36 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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Those pushing and voting for the Patriot Act made the unfortunate error of assuming there would never be a Marxist dick-tator in the White House.

Read my tag. Screw ‘em double time.


45 posted on 06/06/2013 7:13:05 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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Think of all that delicious blackmail material. But the regime would never use it, Right? Right?


46 posted on 06/06/2013 8:57:33 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Plan "B" is now Plan "A")
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