[papertyger]

I like the “post turtle” analogy, myself.

We know all we need to know about the nature of both fenceposts and turtles to know that if we find a turtle balanced on a fencepost, someone had to put it there.

Claiming some as yet undiscovered mechanism allowed the turtle to perch on the fencepost through undirected means is intellectually dishonest.

[muawiyah]

So, let's say it's the nature of a post to stand upright in a hole in the ground, and that of the turtle to walk along ~ yet, in the presence of a very small dimension ~ a 5th dimension ~ the post will dissociate into a ladder of sorts, and the turtle will simply climb the rungs to the top.

We had that bit on FR about two weeks ago with some nanoparticles and DNA structures. Instead of the nano particles self-assembling head to heal, they formed a ladder.

Every thing we used to know about our four dimensional universe is now different in ways we can't yet understand!