Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Army Reprimands Soldier for Serving Chick-Fil-A at Private Party
Big Government ^ | 6/6/2013 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 06/06/2013 7:31:50 AM PDT by markomalley

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-86 next last
To: davisfh

Since General Mattis was pushed out, I would say it’s all now.


41 posted on 06/06/2013 8:03:08 AM PDT by EEGator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: lacrew

What would have happened if he had noted his promotion ceremony was also in honor of the repeal of DADT? Or the 2nd Amendment? Hell, or the 1st Amendment?


42 posted on 06/06/2013 8:05:29 AM PDT by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Resolute Conservative

There is WAAAAY too much intgervention with all of our PERSONAL lives.

There should be no way that these kinds of information are put out into the world.

Either people need to refrain from Facebook and everything else and go back to written invitations for their functions or they should be able to sue when their rights of privacy are attacked.

IF my employer got into my face about what kind of food I served at my private party, they would be scrambling for another full charge bookkeeper within the space of a few sentences.


43 posted on 06/06/2013 8:07:56 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

This reminds me of how we felt during the clinton administration - childish behavior by those who felt they had the power to do anything they wanted, instead of following laws. If you recall we had IRS targeting those the administration didn’t like then too. As much as the media hated President Bush, we would have definitely heard if his administration had been targeting liberals...


44 posted on 06/06/2013 8:11:50 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Liberals chant that ID for voting is racist, so isn't ID for purchasing a gun racist?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley; P-Marlowe; LiteKeeper

There is zero basis for a letter of reprimand based on the facts presented in this article.

A promotion party is a private affair, not a military ceremony. There is no requirement to have one. There isn’t even a requirement to have a promotion ceremony.

If the party is private, then the food is private, the invitation is private, and the wording is private.

Nor is there any restriction from handing out invitations while on duty. It’s done all the time, the same as any other job.

The only thing I can think is that this soldier used his government email account to forward invitations, but even that should be no problem. The government recognizes that some (but minimal) personal actions will be conducted on government computers.

There is no basis. Either we’re not getting all the facts, or this soldier has come up against a radical pro-gay commander (or an idiot) somewhere in his chain of command.


45 posted on 06/06/2013 8:15:36 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

Army Brass, were a bunch of PC TURDS!!


46 posted on 06/06/2013 8:22:10 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ArrogantBustard

“In a land of freedom we are held hostage by the tyranny of hypocrisy, fraud, and treason.”
—me


47 posted on 06/06/2013 8:29:32 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: lacrew
And promotion ‘ceremonies’ usually involve being in uniform, and having the new rank pinned on. And, usually somebody in your chain of command is there to read the citation. If that happened...combined with the fact that this was a politically charged issue (involving the president’s very recent flip-flop on his position), it might be construed as improper.

Sounds to me you don't know the difference between a promotion "ceremony" and a promotion "party".

48 posted on 06/06/2013 8:30:32 AM PDT by garybob (More sweat in training, less blood in combat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: xzins
...or this soldier has come up against a radical pro-gay commander (or an idiot) somewhere in his chain of command.

The other possibility, and IMO more likely, is the top of his local chain of command received a telephone call of "concern" from a known WH operative.

Similar to one's CEO saying, "I really hope you will be able to find time to..."

Less intimidated military heads probably prevailed by pointing out there was no way to predict what other types of normal behavior would require punishiment.

49 posted on 06/06/2013 8:40:37 AM PDT by frog in a pot ("To each according to his need..." This from a guy who never had a real job and his family starved.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: woweeitsme

Unfortunately, in this administration’s oversight of the military, it is allowing all kinds of crazy stuff, promoting lawlessness, and prosecuting the righteous.


50 posted on 06/06/2013 8:42:01 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Military members march for San Diego gay pride - July 6, 2011
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/17/us-gay-parade-military-idUSTRE76G00M20110717

“A group of U.S. service members marched in a San Diego gay pride parade on Saturday, in a demonstration organizers touted as an unprecedented step for gay and lesbian military personnel under the Pentagon’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy.”

“Marine Corporal Will Rodriguez-Kennedy is on active duty and said he looks forward to next year’s parade, when he believes it will be possible to march in “dress blues.””

“The march came a day after a three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals temporarily reinstated the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy on gays, but blocked the Pentagon from penalizing or discharging anyone for being openly gay. The decision marked a reversal from an earlier order to immediately end the policy.”

-————————A YEAR LATER

Military marchers wear uniforms in gay pride parade - July 22, 2012
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/military/story/2012-07-22/military-gay-pride-parade/56419032/1

“Last week, the Defense Department gave a one-time exception to a longstanding policy that bars military troops from wearing uniforms in public, non-partisan parades.”

“With the DADT repeal, more troops are feeling the freedom, and personal relief, of being able to be comfortable discussing their personal life or even having their partners join in unit activities, but it’s not always easy.”

(Yeah, for instance Heterosexuals are not allowed the same freedom as Homosexuals. Homos can appear IN UNIFORM, get on their knees and PROPOSE to their homo boyfriend, and kiss him on national TV, but Hetero Soldiers can’t have a PLAYBOY magazine in the barracks.)

(from the first article linked)
“Navy Senior Chief Dwayne Beebe, crisply dressed in his bright white Navy uniform, stood out among more than 350 service members cheered on by the rainbow-bedecked crowds that lined six-deep Saturday along the San Diego parade route.”

“When Beebe stopped at an intersection and got down on one knee to propose to his boyfriend, the parade nearly came to a stop as other sailors and military troops surrounded the couple as Jonathan Franqui said yes.”

“Beebe, a 20-year veteran and experienced culinary specialist now stationed in Pensacola, had notified his boss, an admiral, the night before that he would be marching in the parade. It was more a courtesy than a requirement, however.”


51 posted on 06/06/2013 8:45:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Truth is a Weapon
Would the Army reprimand a soldier who took part in some kind of gay/lesbian celebration after hours and out of uniform? I don’t think so.

See post #51. Apparently the MILITARY actually CONDONED wearing uniforms in a GAY PRIDE PARADE where a NAVY man IN UNIFORM proposed marriage to another GAY NAVY MAN.

While at the same time they outlawed PINUPS of 'women' in the BARRACKS.

Pinups of barely clothed or naked WEIGHT LIFTERS are not prohibited.

52 posted on 06/06/2013 8:52:07 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: tbpiper
I would like to know what part of the UCMJ he supposedly violated.

DADT. Don't ask, don't tell. He was telling everyone at the party that he was a heterosexual. That gets you brought up on charges.

53 posted on 06/06/2013 8:55:54 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: for-q-clinton

Well he did screw up mixing politics with the military. He’s welcome to have a DOMA party or an abortion party, but mix it with his promotion and it can be seen as crossing the line.

NO, It’s called Free Speech.


54 posted on 06/06/2013 9:03:24 AM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: NEMDF
You can bet that if he had done some gay pride type party when they abolished Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, there would have been no repercussions.

See post #51.

They did celebrate the temporary stay of DADT at a GAY PRIDE PARADE in Nancy Pelosi's district in 2011, and for 2012 they wore their UNIFORMS. (which the BOY SCOUTS were NOT ALLOWED to do by the same 'people' who arranged for the MILITARY to wear theirs.)

Not only were there NO REPERCUSSIONS, but the NAVY CHIEF who proposed to his gay boyfriend on national TV only notified his 'superior' as a COURTESY.

55 posted on 06/06/2013 9:04:50 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: lacrew
Add to this, he was merely celebrating the law of the land - DOMA. It is very strange that supporting the law is considered bad behavior.

Which is undoubtedly why (well... he actually stated it was why) he was serving CHIK-FIL-A.

In otherwords,IT wasn't really about his celebrating the DOMA, but about the CHIK-FIL-A.

56 posted on 06/06/2013 9:11:18 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: garybob

I know exactly what the difference is...that’s why I predicated the paragraph you cited with a big ‘if’ it was a ceremony.

And the article doesn’t specify with clarity what it was.


57 posted on 06/06/2013 9:13:37 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Shery

Yuri Bezmenov. Former KGB agent told us this was a long term plan over TWENTY years ago, and that they (the Russian government) were surprised HOW EASILY and QUICKLY the plan was working. Even if we start TODAY, it will take THIRTY YEARS to counteract what has already been accomplished.


58 posted on 06/06/2013 9:21:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: Apparatchik
What would have happened if he had noted his promotion ceremony was also in honor of the repeal of DADT? Or the 2nd Amendment? Hell, or the 1st Amendment?

Obama and Nancy Pelosi would have shown up at the party bringing gifts.

59 posted on 06/06/2013 9:23:14 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: xzins

The problem was that he ordered CHIK-FIL-A and stated that he did it because the CEO backed DOMA.

This made several politicians very mad. They then passed on their objection to the military, and you know the rest of the story.


60 posted on 06/06/2013 9:26:02 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-86 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson