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BREAKING: Cornyn presents solution for Gang of Eight
Washington Post ^ | June 5, 2013 | By Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 06/05/2013 1:55:52 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

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To: Brad from Tennessee

In 2010 El Presidente of Mexico (Calderon I believe)was asked would happen if someone slipped into Mexico(I don’t know who would want to)? His answer: They would be arrested. Their law about illegal entry into Mexico Here is a summary of that law:
Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.

The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” violate Mexican law, are not “physically or mentally healthy” or lack the “necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents.

My thought is this:

1. Build a 12 foot fence. Man it with all means needed.
2. Give permission for the US personnel the right to shoot anyone going over the fence. Especially US citizens trying to sneak into Mexico.
3. Send the Mexican government a bill for half the cost of the fence and assure them we have their back.

In all seriousness, build the fence and electrify it using solar and wind power. Man and patrol it. Case closed.


61 posted on 06/05/2013 4:12:43 PM PDT by drinktheobamakoolaid (If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: tennmountainman

Right now no one is running against either Cornyn or George P. Bush for land commissioner — they get free rides. Perry could face Tom Pauken (never won statewide) and Greg Abbott. People in TX must think George P. is the “real deal” after all.


62 posted on 06/05/2013 4:42:44 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Bullish

We must conclude that so many of the Republican “leaders”
are and have been for years “closet Democrats”. But unlike the late John Vliet Lindsay, they stay in the closet.


63 posted on 06/05/2013 4:45:58 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: tumblindice
The engine that drives most illegal immigration is the poor economic and social conditions for many in Mexico.

An oligarchy of billionaires run Mexico. These people control the monopolies that dominate the Mexican economy. Traditionally they have been able to repress competition leading to slower economic growth, a stunted entrepreneurial class, a lack of foreign investment, limited choices for consumers, and fewer jobs. These conditions help keep almost half the Mexican population in poverty and only semi-employed.

Mexico is rich. Last year they passed Brazil in economic growth. But where the U.S. is over regulated, Mexico is under regulated. In the U.S. the government is the main obstacle to economic growth. In Mexico it is the ruling class. And Mexico has a judicial system that favors the powerful.

An example: Billionaire Carlos Slim controls 80 percent of telecommunications—landlines and mobile phones—in Mexico. The absence of competition means fewer jobs, less innovation, slower growth for the industry, and little choice in rates or services for consumers.

The key to solving the illegal immigration crisis may be forceful diplomacy aimed at helping Mexico design a new regulatory model that encourages competition, foreign investment and a new generation of entrepreneurs and small business owners.

This may be a pipe dream but it beats: “. . .give me the wretched refuse from your teeming shore.”

64 posted on 06/05/2013 4:49:58 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: tumblindice

NO question there is not going to be an immigration reform bill that is equitable
not with the Dems and MSM in love with illegals
so we can either get all outraged , which is meaningiless
OR we can try to put in some rules that don’t bend over backwards for the illegals

refusing to recognize it is going to happen is pretty stupid


65 posted on 06/05/2013 4:50:22 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Theodore R.

Same here in Tn. We could get rid of Lamar Alexander if a credible
candidate stepped up. So far, no one has.


66 posted on 06/05/2013 4:50:36 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Theodore R.

Gregg Abbott would be awesome - at least from what I’ve heard about him the last several years. I wish he’d run against Cornyn.


67 posted on 06/05/2013 4:55:00 PM PDT by boxlunch (the fourth estate is the fifth column)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Looks like Cornyn is sick of the Senate, because he won’t be there much longer with this crap.

But if there MUST BE a trigger, then instead of using a couple of stooges, how about something like requiring a majority vote in Congress from the major parties - EACH PARTY, and ON THE RECORD. In other words, get 51% of Republicans to also certify that the border is secured. It will be very hard and likely will require a REAL wall.

I know, I know...do nothing, but I’m trying to be somewhat constructive here.


68 posted on 06/05/2013 4:59:59 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: kjo

Its not 11 million. Its 20. Watch. Oh and by the way how are we going to do background checks and have English classes for 20 million? We arent. Get it the jokes on us.


69 posted on 06/05/2013 5:09:23 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: BobL
Looks like Cornyn is sick of the Senate, because he won’t be there much longer with this crap.

Exactly! In the famous words of Gov Rick Perry...

Adios, mofo! Time to primary your @zz!


70 posted on 06/05/2013 5:16:32 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If immigration reform is on the table, two additional things need to be included which must be non-negotiable:

> government issued photo ID required to vote as part of a comprehensive voter rights reform

> there must be a reasonable cap on how many illegals get citizenship regardless of how many apply... because we do not know how many are really here and also may have trouble identifying some who sneak over now in order to get their citizenship

Personally, I am for enforcement first with removing all financial aid including public school to those here illegally... but I would be open for discussion if we could get real border enforcement, and voter rights reforms done.

It must have teeth so that parts cannot be selectively enforced or parts struck down by runaway courts.


71 posted on 06/05/2013 5:16:39 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Jane Long

I’m no fan of Perry, ESPECIALLY when it comes to ILLEGALS...so I don’t think that would buy us much. But there are other Texans with a clean record.


72 posted on 06/05/2013 5:26:05 PM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Marcella
It's been done before.

The only people who do not want ALL illegal aliens, from every foreign nation deported, are the various criminals who prey upon them.

If you employ or harbor an illegal alien, you are committing a serious crime.
Yes, I very much want you to be charged with the crime, and I want you to be held personally and financially liable for the penalties, upon conviction, that you deserve.

Jailtime and severe fines for you, my fellow citizen!
Deportation for your slave/indentured servant/victim of prostitution etc.

You want to be a sponsor for a specific immigrant?
Go for it!
Legally.

73 posted on 06/05/2013 7:14:25 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

From the article: Prohibits illegal aliens convicted of serious misdemeanors, such as domestic violence, aggravated assault, child abuse, violation of a protection order, and drunk driving, from receiving RPI status.

I have to say (somewhat tongue in cheek) this one provision would disqualify most of the illegals in my area. But seriously, please don’t under estimate Senator Cornyn. He has successfully navigated the political waters of Texas for many years and is no one’s fool. He is quite aware this amendment is a poison pill and also a vehicle for allowing Rubio and others a graceful exit from an untenable position. The legislative process is not so much about fighting as it is about winning.


74 posted on 06/05/2013 8:21:13 PM PDT by etcb
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To: qaz123

1) ...and shoot on site; no warnings, no ‘to-wound’
2) Re-write? It’s legible as it stands. They interpret and follow as they do the 2nd, what’s to change the re-write?! Make them read/enforce as it stands
3) Why the slow down? IMMEDIATE termination; no if’s/and’s or but’s

Mine:
4) Enforce immigration using rules from their own country; that’ll get some heads exploding


75 posted on 06/06/2013 9:13:54 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: i_robot73

You’re spot on with #4.

We’d see brain matter everywhere if we had the same rules for the Mexicans that they have for us.


76 posted on 06/06/2013 2:31:38 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: tennmountainman

At this point, no one has announced against either Cornyn or George P. Bush. But Tom Pauken and Greg Abbott are running against Perry and Jerry Patterson and Todd Staples against David Dewhurst. People in TX still think Cornyn is “on their side”.


77 posted on 06/06/2013 8:58:35 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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