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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; Impy; Pelham; NFHale
RE :”I am hearing similar rumors (”We can't afford for them to get benefits without paying taxes... This shiny new Imm. Ref. bill will fix everything....”) about a House version of amnesty. They are meeting behind closed doors of course, so it's hard to know for sure, but I am pretty sure that Boehner is pushing it. “

The rationale I heard for a House bill sounded more realistic, to keep the House from being in position of being handed a Senate passed bill and then Bohner just puts that sole bill up for a vote as he did VAWA and taxes.
In both those cases the Reid Senate decided what Obama would sign into law.

If this is really the case then I as I always say kill the billin the Senate and the GOP house doesnt have to do anything as the failure is all in the Reid Senate.

One way to kill the bill is to add poison bill amendments.
Doing nothing (by some) doesnt ensure that nothing gets passed, ironically.

123 posted on 06/07/2013 4:38:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; Impy; Pelham; NFHale
One way to kill the bill is to add poison bill amendments. Doing nothing (by some) doesnt ensure that nothing gets passed, ironically.

Maybe the house GOP is smarter than I think. But what worries me (in addition to statements that sound like amnesty will pay for itself or even be profitable) is is they say "The people want us to work with Democrats on immigration." I don't want that, unless it means going through the motions of working with them, to run out the clock or put in poison pills.

124 posted on 06/07/2013 8:22:49 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; Impy; Pelham; NFHale
I want to go back to this:

The rationale I heard for a House bill sounded more realistic, to keep the House from being in position of being handed a Senate passed bill and then Bohner just puts that sole bill up for a vote as he did VAWA and taxes.

Seems like one big handicap the GOP has is cowardice. If the GOP was in control of the senate and passed a bill that hurt Dems as much as a Reid amnesty would hurt the GOP, you bet your *** a Pelosi-led House would vote it down with no apologies.

The GOP has the votes to kill any senate amnesty bill but lacks the will to do so. Maybe they have orders from the Chamber of Commerce.

137 posted on 06/07/2013 8:07:38 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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