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Say NO to GMOs in Your Food
Townhall.com ^ | June 4, 2013 | Chuck Norris

Posted on 06/04/2013 4:55:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: surroundedbyblue

I can get HFCS from GMO corn. I can get HFCS from non-GMO corn. I challenge you to find any study that finds different rates of obesity.

Food additives and GMOs are two different subjects, unless the subject of the discussion has morphed from the alleged health effects of GMOs into that of overall dietary purity.

This has now become an exercise in identifying obfuscation, dealing with mild condescension (”do a little research”) and tolerating fearmongering buzzwords (”Frankenfoods”. Really?)

Bye.


101 posted on 06/04/2013 8:32:50 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Black Agnes

I would like to see someone post the safety tests, most GMO’s were tested for 90 days! That will sure tell you a lot of long term effects...Not.


102 posted on 06/04/2013 8:35:04 AM PDT by acapesket
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To: muir_redwoods

The problem with GMO foods is that the seeds are modified to resist the effects of the weed killers and allow for more spraying to kill weeds and not crops. So, more of the weed killer gets into the food chain. I am sure that there are probably some good effects as well, but maybe Monsanto should take its engineered seeds to the countries where the people want to eat them.

I don’t think that we know all the detrimental effects of the various products that we spray onto our crops, our lawns and public areas, like golf courses. We have a cancer pocket (women’s cancer) in our county that has been linked to the chemicals from the raspberry farms that got into the water table. My mother-in-law gave up golf after all three of her golf partners died of brain tumors.


103 posted on 06/04/2013 8:36:34 AM PDT by Eva
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To: tbpiper

And you have scientific evidence that GMOs are unsafe?


104 posted on 06/04/2013 8:38:14 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: G Larry

Sadly Larry I am not html proficient but I have indeed read several studies.
One was recently posted on another recent GMO thread regarding bT and it’s effects on human kidneys. Our overall health is greatly due to the health of our gut bacteria, how putting spliced viruses and pesticide producing crops in that mix could be healthy is beyond me.


105 posted on 06/04/2013 8:46:29 AM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket

Have you “read the studies”?

Or, have you read somebody else’s, agenda riden summary of those studies?


106 posted on 06/04/2013 9:00:55 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: acapesket; G Larry
Study: Bt Toxin Kills Human Kidney Cells

… Bt has been used for years as a naturally-derived pesticide; the big difference here is that Monsanto’s gene-splicing wizards made corn and other food-bearing plants grow the Bt internally. When it’s used in organic agriculture you can just wash the Bt off with water; you can’t do that when it’s inside ever cell of the corn you’re eating.

...A new study shows that low doses of Bt biopesticide CryA1b as well as the glyphosate herbicide, Roundup, kill human kidney cells. The Bt biopesticide conferring insect resistance and the glyphosate tolerance trait tied to the use of glyphosate herbicides account for almost all the GM crops grown worldwide.

… These studies, along with the observation that Bt protein is present in the blood of pregnant women and their babie

107 posted on 06/04/2013 9:05:29 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: G Larry
And you have scientific evidence that GMOs are unsafe?

Sure, for starters

Don Huber, emeritus professor of plant pathologiy at Purdue University, gave a two-and-a-half hour indictment of glyphosate herbicide and genetically modified crops at the Acres USA conference in December.

Dr. Huber detailed the negative impacts of glyphosate and GM crops on plants, soils, and the environment and animal and human health. He called glyphosate the “most abused chemical in the history of agriculture” and described GM crops as a “failed system.”

Glyphosate’s negative impacts on plants

Huber first detailed the negative impacts of glyphosate on crops, soils, and the environment based on papers that he and other scientists, such as Robert Kremer, a microbiologist with the USDA’s Agricultural Research Service, have published.

Huber said glyphosate makes plants more susceptible to diseases, increases the virulence of soil-borne disease organisms, and immobilizes plant nutrients such as manganese. It is also toxic to beneficial soil organisms and accumulates in the soil. There are more than 40 plant diseases reported with use of glyphosate, including many fungal diseases such as fusarium.

“There has been a 500% increase in fusarium and huge increases in sudden death syndrome (SDS) in soybeans,” Huber said.

He showed slides of Roundup Ready GM soybean fields in Iowa and Illinois affected by SDS. The plants were brown while adjacent fields of non-GMO soybean plants not treated with glyphosate were healthy and green.

Huber referred to a published paper showing significant reductions of minerals in RR soybeans treated with glyphosate: 26% less calcium, 13% less magnesium, 49% less iron, and 45% less manganese.

Another slide demonstrated how, contrary to claims, glyphosate doesn’t degrade in the soil: plants growing in a field that had been treated with glyphosate for 10 years were stunted and yellow while plants growing in a field treated with glyphosate for a year were taller and green.

Other problems Huber highlighted included “bubble” kernels on corn cobs that received a late application of glyphosate, damage to winter wheat from residual glyphosate in the soil, poorer growth of russet potatoes resulting from soils treated with glyphosate, and reduced yields in Roundup Ready corn.

Negative impacts on animals

Huber then detailed a litany of feed and food concerns about the effects of glyphosate on animals and human health.

He referred to a 2002 statement from the US Cattlemen’s Association to the US Congress describing “devastating problems with pregnant cows and calves” and that “high numbers of fetuses are aborting for no apparent reason.”

Huber links the problems to feed from GM corn and soybeans. He showed a slide of inflamed stomachs of pigs fed GM feed compared to normal colored stomachs of pigs fed non-GMO feed. Another slide showed cattle stomachs suffering from chronic botulism. “Glyphosate in animal feed can cause a microbial imbalance and chronic botulism,” Huber said.

New pathogen causing abortions in pigs and cows?

Last year, Huber caused a stir when he wrote a letter to US Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack warning him about a “pathogen new to science” that has been linked to glyphosate and Roundup Ready crops. Huber said the pathogen, which he describes as a microfungus, is linked to illness and reproductive problems in animals and poses threats to human health.

Since writing the letter, Huber has received many letters and emails from veterinarians reporting problems with animals fed GM feed. A veterinarian in Michigan wrote him about a sow (hog) herd that has had an increasing number of deaths and reproductive problems. The cause is unknown, and the vet wonders if it is the pathogen Huber identified. Similar reproductive problems have been reported in cows. Last November Hoard’s Dairyman reported that cows are losing up to 20% of pregnancies.

“We shouldn’t expose the entire agricultural infrastructure to a massive experiment,” Huber said.

“Willing to sacrifice our children”

The introduction of GM crops, Huber said, was a “betrayal of the public trust by a failure to address potential risks. The irresponsible and premature widespread use is based on flawed and unsound scientific assumptions.”

Huber said glyphosate and GM crops are likely harming human health. He cited significant increases in inflammatory bowel syndrome, Crohn’s disease, and certain types of cancers. Other diseases such as food allergies, autism, endometriosis, Alzheimer’s, and Parkinson’s may also be linked to glyphosate and GM crops, he said.

“Glyphosate has totally changed the environment; it has impacted humans, vegetables, grains, fruits, plants, feeds, and animals,” Huber said.

In conclusion Huber said that our basic responsibility in agriculture is providing safe and nutritious food. Instead, with current GMO-based agricultural practices, “we are willing to sacrifice our children and jeopardize future generations based on failed promises and flawed science just to benefit the ‘bottom line’ of a commercial enterprise.”

Ref akso:
http://www.fooddemocracynow.org/blog/2011/apr/6/don-hubers-cover-letter-euuk-commissions/

108 posted on 06/04/2013 9:40:02 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: muawiyah
dead birds ~ free range chickens suffer a predictable death rate out wandering about ~ it’s a number above 0.

You can say the same thing about factory chickens as well.

109 posted on 06/04/2013 9:43:32 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: acapesket
The article also points out...we may getting more exposure than realized...long term daily exposure is uncertain

... And who's to say what GMOs will do -- now or in generations -- inside our bodies as we consume them on a greater scale and they become a part of the bacteria in our digestive tracts?

With more and more U.S. foods being grown,manufactured and imported from places like South America and Eastern Europe -- the precise areas outside the U.S. where Monsanto's biotech seeds are gaining their greatest foothold,food imports are quickly becoming a recipe for disaster. Remember,too,much of the GM crop grown around the world is used for livestock feed,so there's more than one way for GMOs to be ingested in your diet,such as from meat and dairy products

110 posted on 06/04/2013 9:57:44 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: tiki

You hit the nail on the head.


We have the best food system through out time and history. Maybe it is not perfect but we are all eating and EATING WELL.

Here we have conservatives that want to tear it down be cause it is not perfect. Isn’t this what the rats did with our health care? We had the best health care in the world.

There is not much difference between libs and conservatives many time.........................


111 posted on 06/04/2013 10:07:29 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: kidd

The health nuts think obeisity parallels Type II diabetes. Actually, it does no such thing.


112 posted on 06/04/2013 11:35:35 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: artichokegrower

yeast ~ yeast ~ yeast ~ yeast ~ yeast


113 posted on 06/04/2013 11:36:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muir_redwoods
What you said is 100% correct. Many people have superstitious beliefs with no scientific understanding of facts.
114 posted on 06/04/2013 11:38:59 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (ok)
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To: Eva

So ban the sprays


115 posted on 06/04/2013 3:04:17 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muawiyah

Where do you get this view that we are health nuts? Where does type 2 diabetes tie into this except in your particular thought process?
In this Democratic republic we are supposed to be privy to the pursuit of life , liberty and happiness. If it makes others happy not to be forced to eat GMO,
What is your issue?
Do you suddenly have the right to shove it down our throats because you think it’s cool?
You call us all (not you personally) Luddites?

I don’t work for i r s, I believe in freedom.


116 posted on 06/04/2013 7:49:15 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: acapesket
health nuts have been pushing two false conclusions for ages ~ 1 ~ that sugar causes diabetes, and 2 ~ that obeisity causes diabetes.

Neither is true.

If you don't want to be thought of as an 'empty calorie health nut' then don't tell us that obeisity or sugar causes diabetes!

117 posted on 06/04/2013 8:02:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: acapesket

And I love to force pigs to eat GMO corn because there’s nothing tastier han roast corn fed pig!


118 posted on 06/04/2013 8:02:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

My Dad died from diabetes and weighed 129. You eat all of that $**t you can get. I choose not to.
Why so nasty?


119 posted on 06/04/2013 8:05:30 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: surroundedbyblue

Breeding a certain trait into a crop slowly, over fifty years is good, but adding it in five is bad? Why?


120 posted on 06/05/2013 9:00:11 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Aussiebabe
Do some research:

http://www.monsanto.no/index.php/en/environment/gmo/gmo-videos/194-genetic-roulette-the-gamble-of-our-lives

121 posted on 06/06/2013 10:39:58 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

Why research? Just go with ignorant, leftist feelings.


122 posted on 06/06/2013 11:14:58 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Why research? Just go with ignorant, leftist feelings.

Because if you go with your feelings, you'll believe the lie that GMO's are harmless. This is not a leftist issue. It has to do with the safety of our food supply. Like I said, do some research and get back with me. I dare you.

123 posted on 06/06/2013 12:07:22 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

Not a leftist issue? So why are the idiot leftists all on the same side?

If you look around and you find yourself surrounded by idiots, you have to ask yourself if you are one as well.


124 posted on 06/06/2013 1:12:51 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
There is ample evidence that GMO's are not safe. They do nothing to enhance the food for the consumer. Their principle function is to create a perpetual market for the chemical companies.

Prove me wrong. Do some research ( look up Dr. Don Huber).

125 posted on 06/06/2013 3:06:55 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

What evidence?

They boost yield, that’s why farmers eagerly buy them.


126 posted on 06/06/2013 3:14:44 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: tbpiper

“A team of senior plant and animal scientists have recently brought to my attention the discovery of an electron microscopic pathogen that appears to significantly impact the health of plants, animals and probably human beings,” wrote Huber in the letter, which is quoted here with his permission. “Based on a review of the data, it is widespread, very serious, and is in much higher concentrations in Roundup Ready (RR) soybeans and corn — suggesting a link with the RR gene, or more likely the presence of Roundup. This organism appears NEW to science!”

He sounds like a crank.


127 posted on 06/06/2013 3:19:51 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
They boost yield, that’s why farmers eagerly buy them.

No go do your own research.

128 posted on 06/06/2013 3:30:10 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

No,they really boost yield.


129 posted on 06/06/2013 3:33:05 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
He sounds like a crank.

That's because you don't understand what GMO's are. Monsanto would have you believe that we have been genetically modifying organisms for years through selective breeding. Genetic engineering uses the genes from two dissimilar species that could never mate to make a creature that is indeed NEW to science.

130 posted on 06/06/2013 3:40:59 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

I do understand what they are, I don’t understand why they upset the lefty idiots so much.

Why do they upset you so much?


131 posted on 06/06/2013 3:43:25 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I don’t understand why they upset the lefty idiots so much.Why do they upset you so much?

Not being a lefty idiot myself, I can't respond to your first statement. My concerns are similar to Joel Salatin's who nowhere near being a lefty idiot. If you would do some honest research you might come share my concern's as well.

BTW look into the "Food Safety Czar" and let me know if you'd trust anything Monsanto would say.

132 posted on 06/06/2013 3:56:46 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

Hang around with enough lefty idiots, you might as well be one.


133 posted on 06/06/2013 4:28:15 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Hang around with enough lefty idiots, you might as well be one.

Too lazy to do your own research? Are you just going to be satisfied to believe whatever authorities tell you?

134 posted on 06/06/2013 4:32:14 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

Yeah, I won’t believe the lefty idiots on this or any other issue. Sorry to hear you do.


135 posted on 06/06/2013 5:18:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It is kind of funny to debate with leftists...unfortunately, Greenpeace has infiltrated Free Republic for a very long time....it is pretty useless to argue science and facts with the Greenpeace/leftists.


136 posted on 06/06/2013 8:35:27 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: tbpiper
I learned long ago that trying to discuss science and biology facts with Greenpeace-types is pretty useless. Greenpeace just argues emotions and makes up research papers that are rarely, if never peer-reviewed, and when they are reviewed, the are usually laughed out of town.
137 posted on 06/06/2013 8:38:00 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Aussiebabe
I won’t believe the lefty idiots on this or any other issue. Sorry to hear you do.

I believe what I've found out through researching the subject on my own. Are you really too lazy to do the same or are you just afraid you'll have to change your opinion? Go read this: "GMO Giant Monsanto Joins Big Business Coalition for UN Agenda 21"

138 posted on 06/07/2013 3:38:51 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

GIGO.


139 posted on 06/07/2013 5:59:12 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Most people with the choice of you and your family starving to death or eating some modified foodstuff will opt to not starve to death, eating the foodstuff. That is the choice many in the world have. I guess one could argue that if they starved to death that has its advantages for “mother earth”.


140 posted on 06/07/2013 6:05:35 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: tbpiper
You are pretty funny. Anytime one is on the same side of Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi, along with Greenpeace, The Sierra Club and Friends of the Earth, as you are, you don't have to do much research to do figure out this is a far leftist position.. I suggest you would have a lot more support on the far leftie websites like move.on . I think FR is generous in letting the Greenpeace folks post on this site.
141 posted on 06/07/2013 4:54:54 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe
...you don't have to do much research to do figure out this is a far leftist position...

You're absolutely correct. You don't have to do much research at all particularly if your argument is tenuous, vacuous, and likely premenstrual.

You assume a lot about me and base it on nothing more highly questionable 'reasoning'.

Have some guts, do some real research and have an opinion that somebody, conservative or liberal hasn't given you.

142 posted on 06/07/2013 7:05:34 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper
You don't have to do much research at all particularly if your argument is tenuous, vacuous, and likely premenstrual.

But enough about you.

You assume a lot about me and base it on nothing more highly questionable reasoning

It's true, your reasoning is questionable.

143 posted on 06/07/2013 8:09:52 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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