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Ohio State president: Gaffes partly due to Mormon faith, isolation in Vernal when young
The Ogden Standard Examiner ^ | June 1, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 06/01/2013 6:04:31 AM PDT by Utah Binger

By his own admission, Gordon Gee is an unlikely university president.

Born during World War II in Vernal, Utah, Gee took an unfamiliar path to be head of one of the nation’s most prestigious schools — Ohio State University.

Now, the intelligent, quick-witted rural Utah boy finds himself embroiled in a controversy of his own making, which may be due in part to his roots.

“Despite leading universities for more than half my life, I am a most unlikely university president. Unlikely by virtue of several factors — academic background, temperament, faith, and family history,” he told the Columbus Metropolitan Club in a March 27 speech.

The speech was given after a controversial speech last December in which Gee mocked Notre Dame, Roman Catholics and the Southeastern Conference, but before accounts had been reported by the media.

On Friday, details of a March 11 letter sent to Gee by the university’s board of trustees was reported by the Associated Press. The letter said Gee’s December comments embarrassed and divided the university and run the risk of diminishing the effectiveness of its efforts.

(Excerpt) Read more at standard.net ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Ohio; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: mormon; ohio; university; utah
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Then he goes on to say this:“Those kinds of off-hand comments do not reflect my own thinking, and certainly they are not Ohio State’s ideals. Twentieth-century values have no place in a forward-thinking world, and I take that very much as my own responsibility as a leader.”
1 posted on 06/01/2013 6:04:31 AM PDT by Utah Binger
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To: Elsie; Zakeet; colorcountry; greyfoxx39

Southern Utah ping


2 posted on 06/01/2013 6:05:56 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger

He will take responsibility, head up a study that makes sure that this kind of thing never happens again, and then moves on...

He’ll follow in the footsteps of Hillary! She took responsibility for Benghazi, (wink, wink) and the press dutifly dropped the matter. (It’s only because of the families of those killed that kept the issue alive that Comgress is investigating it today)


3 posted on 06/01/2013 6:14:01 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Democrats: Robbing Peter to buy Paul's vote.)
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To: Utah Binger
Is he an active Mormon?

Gee! And those retrograde 20th century values! Time to ditch them since there is no place for them. Just how did our parents and grandparent muddle through two world wars and the Great Depression? /s

4 posted on 06/01/2013 6:14:04 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Utah Binger

Nashville was saddled with this imbecile running Vanderbilt (and his bat$hit crazy, drug-addled activist wife came as a part of the deal). My condolences to any locale who has to deal wit him.


5 posted on 06/01/2013 6:22:10 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Utah Binger
Twentieth-century values have no place in a forward-thinking world

Gordo, what in the heck does that mean?

6 posted on 06/01/2013 6:24:34 AM PDT by stevem
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To: Utah Binger
OK here is the thing that interested me. The Dinosaur National Monument sculptures in Vernal were made by Elbert Porter, born and raised here in Orderville, UT. He also made a bust of Maynard Dixon

Brother Gee has been reading too much of the doctrine written by McConkie IMHO.

7 posted on 06/01/2013 6:25:35 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The joke is they had this guy before, he left, and they hired him back after 10 years of screwing up two other schools.


8 posted on 06/01/2013 6:27:19 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Utah Binger
Those kinds of off-hand comments do not reflect my own thinking...au contraire, those kinds of off-hand comments precisely reflect, better, reveal your own thinking.
9 posted on 06/01/2013 6:31:03 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: wintertime
Is he an active Mormon?

Good question. Most of these types play the role but have coffee in secret in the faculty lounge. And they send their "little people" to the liquor store.

10 posted on 06/01/2013 6:33:12 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: nascarnation

In Academics that is called “success”...


11 posted on 06/01/2013 6:34:32 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

Sort of like fired sports coaches hailed as incoming heroes at their new team.


12 posted on 06/01/2013 6:38:48 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Utah Binger
Gee is a total embarassment to TOSU community and State of Ohio. He makes Biden sound like a man whose pronouncements are well thought out. Past time for Gee to retire or be removed from office. While they are at it, the football program needs to be dismantled and reestablished with correct priorities. The direction the program is taking under Urban Myer frightens me. Please realize that this is said being an TOSU 72’alum.
13 posted on 06/01/2013 6:43:40 AM PDT by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Is this the same guy who drove Christian groups off campus at Vanderbilt???


14 posted on 06/01/2013 6:43:42 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Paine in the Neck

I grew up in a small town in Utah too...Isolation does not cause stupidity. When old Gordo was on his mission to Germany,
the book “Mormon Doctrine” was read extensively as an inspired document. That “great and abominable” thing was quoted by all the missionaries. Me too as I was in Denmark.

I managed to get over it though. Amazing how certain indoctrination sticks.


15 posted on 06/01/2013 6:45:28 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: buckalfa

What scares you about the football program?


16 posted on 06/01/2013 6:47:59 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Utah Binger

“Most of these types play the role but have coffee in secret in the faculty lounge.”

Frankly, I can’t blame them; I tried ‘Mormon Tea’ when I was camping in Utah and it is plumb pitiful.

Mind you, the publicly available coffee in rural Utah wasn’t much better back then in the pre-Starbucks day. ;^)


17 posted on 06/01/2013 6:48:35 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: buckalfa

Urban Myer....University of Utah a few years back.

Possible connection.


18 posted on 06/01/2013 6:48:35 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: headsonpikes
When you come to Mount Carmel pay us a visit:


19 posted on 06/01/2013 6:57:19 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger

Jack Mormons ?


20 posted on 06/01/2013 6:58:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They are much more secretive than “Jack Mormons”. They are more like RINO’s in that they play both sides of the street.

And appearances are most important.


21 posted on 06/01/2013 7:06:22 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Utah Binger

Nitwit twit ... extraordinaire!

From this: Report: One more mistake could lead to Gordon Gee's dismissal

It was in that meeting [with the Ohio State Athletics Council] that Gee, a Mormon, talked about the Big Ten courting Notre Dame for membership, saying, "You just can't trust those damn Catholics." Gee also made jokes about schools in the SEC, saying, "When [the SEC] can learn how to read and write, then they can figure out what we're doing." He even made comments about Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, saying, "We need to make sure [Delany] keeps his hands out of our pockets while we support him."

22 posted on 06/01/2013 7:13:15 AM PDT by Zakeet (If idiots could fly, Washington would be an airport)
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To: Utah Binger

Is he the one that ultimately decided to have Obambi as the speaker at the commencement ceremonies this year?


23 posted on 06/01/2013 7:19:39 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Utah Binger

I’m coming down and will drop in. Is there a good timeframe - not too many tourists? say september maybe?


24 posted on 06/01/2013 7:24:30 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -- Sigmund Freud)
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To: Utah Binger

Wait, I heard he had trashed the Catholic church, but I didn’t know he dissed the SEC. Okay, NOW I’m mad.


25 posted on 06/01/2013 7:25:02 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Zakeet

Seems old Gordo is still carrying the 1958 copy of Mormon Doctrine.

What does the Book of Mormon say about the Catholic Church? Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie made it clear:

“It is also to the Book of Mormon to which we turn for the plainest description of the Catholic Church as the great and abominable church. Nephi saw this ‘church which is the most abominable above all other churches’ in vision. He ‘saw the devil that he was the foundation of it’ and also the murders, wealth, harlotry, persecutions, and evil desires that historically have been a part of this satanic organization. (1 Nephi 13:1-10)”
- Mormon Doctrine, p. 130 (1958)

“Literally a harlot is a prostitute; figuratively it is any apostate church. Nephi, speaking of harlots in the literal sense and while giving a prophetic description of the Catholic Church, recorded that he ‘saw the devil that he was the foundation of it.’ ... Then speaking of harlots in the figurative sense, he designated the Catholic Church as ‘the mother of harlots’ (1 Nephi 13:34; 14:15-17), a title which means that the protestant churches, the harlot daughters which broke off from the great and abominable church, would themselves be apostate churches.”
- Mormon Doctrine, pp. 314-315 (1958)


26 posted on 06/01/2013 7:28:09 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Zakeet

Yup, another confirmation of my long held belief to NEVER trust a man who wears a bow tie.


27 posted on 06/01/2013 7:28:25 AM PDT by Student0165
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To: frankenMonkey
When you see this sign you are here. I make coffee every morning when artists are here or if we have tours. August 23-25 is very busy as we have our big show called Maynard Dixon Country that week.


28 posted on 06/01/2013 7:39:11 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: stevem; Utah Binger

The reference to “20th centurty values” was part of Gee’s apology statement or letter or the university’s reprimand letter that he had to move off 20th century morals or values.

I guess that is why he jumped coach Meyer last year when he had the weaker players wearing pink or lavender shirts in practice, and the Gay community went bat-crap crazy.

Urban had to apologize to anyone who may have been offended, living or dead


29 posted on 06/01/2013 7:47:28 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Utah Binger

Just checked the maps - I tented in Southern Utah about 15 years ago and loved the country; it is truly extraordinary. Should I pass through again, I’ll stop for a coffee!


30 posted on 06/01/2013 7:59:42 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: madprof98

No, he had already departed by then.


31 posted on 06/01/2013 8:05:03 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: stevem; Utah Binger

Note point 2 of Gee’s “remediation plan:

http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/osu-tells-gee-to-hire-speaking-coach/nX72w/?icmp=daytondaily_internallink_invitationbox_apr2013_daytondailystubtomydaytondaily_launch

As Strother Martin once said, in Cool Hnad Luke, “You gotta get your mind right, boy!”


32 posted on 06/01/2013 8:10:56 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: fieldmarshaldj

My cousin(who is conservative and Catholic) graduated from OSU last month. A pity she had to deal with this guy and Zero at her commencement.


33 posted on 06/01/2013 8:21:33 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Utah Binger

This false stereotype is so old I am surprised anyone would have the brazen temerity to crawl out of an old stinky hole with it. Got Bigotry??


34 posted on 06/01/2013 8:33:14 AM PDT by usacon (United we stand divided we fall.)
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To: Utah Binger

Oh my gosh! You’ve been called a bigot. What next, anti mormon? Hater?

Keep on truckin’, I’ll just continue to think of you as a teller of the truth.


35 posted on 06/01/2013 8:51:15 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Utah Binger; All

The national LDS needs to be boycotted. All Mormon-owned businesses need to be boycotted - NATIONALLY, until they relent on their criminal support for illegal alien amnesty. The LDS is now - unknown to most Americans - a principal force along with La Raza, in pushing amnesty for 30+ million illegals. It was a Mormon judge - Murray Snow - whose father is a bigwig in the LDS leadership and who himself has strong ties, who recently ruled that Sheriff Joe Arpaio was “racial profiling” so-called “Latinos” in his immigration arrests. Snow did his missionary work in Mexico and speaks fluent Spanish, and had no business being on the bench for this case. In addition, the LDS orchestrated the recall of AZ Senate Pres. Russell Pearce, the author of SB1070.


36 posted on 06/01/2013 9:05:30 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Graybeard58

No comment required for the baiters.


37 posted on 06/01/2013 10:45:18 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: johniegrad
I fear with the expectations of the Bucks returning as national championship contenders and the upcoming playoff system, there will be too pressure to win and all of the accompanying temptations associated with that pressure.I love nothing more to see the Buckeyes win, but at what additional cost to the University's reputation? Myer is a great coach, recruiter, and appears to be a decent person, but he is only human. IMO, football controls TOSU, and not the other way around. The same can be said of other big time powers. Money creates power, and power corrupts. My complaint should not have been against Myer but rather the direction that big time college football has taken.
38 posted on 06/01/2013 11:05:19 AM PDT by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: buckalfa

Thanks.


39 posted on 06/01/2013 12:18:20 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Utah Binger
Gaffes partly due to Mormon faith...

Raise up a child; in the way he should go...

40 posted on 06/01/2013 1:39:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger
Twentieth-century values have no place in a forward-thinking world...

Neither do 19th century heresies...

41 posted on 06/01/2013 1:40:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: buckalfa
He makes Biden sound like a man whose pronouncements are well thought out.

Barry; if you don't want to get impeached; bow out NOW and let ME take over!

I'll rat that witch Hillary out!

42 posted on 06/01/2013 1:43:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger

http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Great_and_Abominable_Church


43 posted on 06/01/2013 1:45:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger

Between 4:30 - 4:35 AM


44 posted on 06/01/2013 1:45:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sportutegrl
Wait, I heard he had trashed the Catholic church, but I didn’t know he dissed the SEC. Okay, NOW I’m mad.

But...

...what about us PROTESTants???


  "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent"
 
 (The Seer, p. 255  Orson Pratt )

45 posted on 06/01/2013 1:47:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger
I can't make it on Tuesdays.

I have to take the 'kids' to Bob's for supper...



46 posted on 06/01/2013 1:50:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: shalom aleichem
I guess that is why he jumped coach Meyer last year when he had the weaker players wearing pink or lavender shirts in practice, and the Gay community went bat-crap crazy.

ALL of it; or just the MORMON subset???


I'm a MORMON ...
 
 
 

http://www.affirmation.org/

47 posted on 06/01/2013 1:51:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: usacon
This false stereotype is so old I am surprised anyone would have the brazen temerity to crawl out of an old stinky hole with it.

WHICH 'false' stereotype?

48 posted on 06/01/2013 1:53:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: usacon
United we stand divided we fall.)

With the Mormons (to be precise, the members of The Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints - based in Salt Lake City) intent on being called “Christians” after so many years of eschewing that word, and despite the fact that there are so many fundamental theological differences between Christianity and Mormonism, I often wonder: 

How do members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints feel about calling the members of its various spin-off sects Latter-Day Saints, Christians, or Mormons? Or about those sects calling themselves Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? (There was an earlier campaign by LDS to have journalism style books use the word “Mormon” to refer only to LDS, and not RLDS, FLDS, or other LDS sects).

For a man who bragged about holding things together, Joseph Smith, Jr. doesn’t appear go have done a good job of it during his lifetime. Wycam Clark’s “Pure Church of Christ” spun off in 1831. This trend continued. There were six LDS sects spawned in the 1830s, eight in the 1840s, two in the 1850s, and seven in the 1860s.

Do those responsible for the “Mormons are Christians” campaign consider these denominations to be Mormons or Latter-Day Saints? Surely many of these denominations are much closer to mainstream LDS than LDS is to Christianity. Many stick to Smith’s teachings and old temple endowment ceremonies.

Short Creek Community
Latter Day Church of Christ
Apostolic United Brethren
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness [sic] of Times
Church of the Lamb of God
Church of the New Covenant in Christ
Confederate Nations of Israel
Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
School of the Prophets
Centennial Park
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Kingdom of God
True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days
The Church of the Firstborn and the General Assembly of Heaven

Blackmore/Bountiful Community
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ
Order of Enoch
Aaronic Order
Zion’s Order, Inc.
Perfected Church of Jesus Christ of Immaculate Latter-day Saints
Church of Jesus Christ (Bullaite)
Community of Christ
Church of Jesus Christ (Toneyite)
Independent RLDS / Restoration Branches
Church of Jesus Christ Restored 1830
Church of Christ (Lion of God Ministry/Clarkite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Zion’s Branch)
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Church of Christ (Temple Lot) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Fettingite) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ at Halley’s Bluff (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Restored) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ “With the Elijah Message” (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Hancock) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Burtite) (Hendrickite)
Church of Israel (Hendrickite)
Church of Christ with the Elijah Message (The Assured Way of the Lord) (Hendrickite)
The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
True Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Restored Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
Holy Church of Jesus Christ (Strangite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Drewite) (Strangite)
True Church of Jesus Christ Restored (Strangite)
Pentecostal Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Whitmerite)

Or these defunct sects:

Pure Church of Christ (Clarkite)
Independent Church (Hotonite)
Church of Christ (Boothite)
Church of Christ (Parrishite)
Alston Church
Church of Christ (Chubbyite)
Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Church of Christ (Pageite)
True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (this one was particularly curious - started by William Law, editor of The Nauvoo Expositor, just one of many sects started in opposition to plural marriage)
The Church of Zion (Godbeite)
United Order Family of Christ
Church of the Potter Christ
Church of the Firstborn (Morrisite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gibsonite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Most High
Church of the Christian Brotherhood
Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion (Rigdonite) Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Primative Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Christ (Aaron Smith)
Church of the Messiah (Adamsite)
Church of Christ (Wrightite)
Church of Christ (Whitmerite)
Church of Christ (Brewsterite)
The Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Congregation of Jehovah’s Presbytery of Zion
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gladdenite)
Independent Latter Day Saints of Nigeria
Independent Latter Day Saints of Ghana
Apostolic Divine Church of Ghana

Are members of those LDS groups “Mormons”? “Latter Day Saints?” “Christians?”

Do the folks in Salt Lake City have a problem with any of those groups, who believe in the restoration of the original church by Joseph Smith, calling themselves Mormons or Saints?

Most of these divisions in the Latter-Day Saint movement occurred over the issue of polygamy or succession of the Prophet. Sects broke off when Joseph Smith was still alive, and when Brigham Young was named prophet, because they didn’t believe in the practice of plural marriage – either publicly, or in some cases when it was practiced in private and denied in public.

Of course, there was the great split between Rocky Mountain Saints and Prairie Saints, when LDS members couldn’t agree on a successor prophet to Smith, Jr., and the church went to Utah, Missouri, Illinois, Michigan, and Pennsylvania under Brigham Young, Sidney Rigdon (senior member of the First Presidency), James Strang, Lyman Wight, Alpheus Cutler, William Smith, David Whitmer (a BOM witness), or Joseph Smith III (son of Joseph Smith, Jr.). Almost all of these individuals still has multiple sects in existence that date to an 1844 decision about who should be the next President/Prophet of the church.

The Prairie Saints split into sects over the issue of whether Smith practiced polygamy. Rocky Mountain Saints had many, many spinoff sects after the 1890 Manifesto – groups that still practice plural marriage.

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49 posted on 06/01/2013 1:53:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: montag813
The national LDS needs to be boycotted.

Where would you start??


All Mormon-owned businesses need to be ...

Now the boys that run the SLC branch get REALLY pissy when folks OTHER than THEIR members get called 'mormon'.

You'll need to define your target a bit more accurately.




Media Letter   
26 June 2008 — Salt Lake City  (http://newsroom.lds.org/additional-resource/media-letter)

*The following is a letter from Elder Lance B. Wickman, General Counsel of the Church to publishers of major newspapers, TV stations and magazines. It was sent out on Tuesday, June 24, 2008.




Recent events have focused the media spotlight on a polygamous sect near San Angelo, Texas, calling itself the “Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.” As you probably know, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has absolutely no affiliation with this polygamous sect. Decades ago, the founders of that sect rejected the doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, were excommunicated, and then started their own religion. To the best of our knowledge, no one at the Texas compound has ever been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Unfortunately, however, some of the media coverage of the recent events in Texas has caused members of the public to confuse the doctrines and members of that group and our church. We have received numerous inquiries from confused members of the public who, by listening to less than careful media reports, have come to a grave misunderstanding about our respective doctrines and faith. Based on these media reports many have erroneously concluded that there is some affiliation between the two – or even worse, that they are one and the same.

Over the years, in a careful effort to distinguish itself, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has gone to significant lengths to protect its rights in the name of the church and related matters. Specifically, we have obtained registrations for the name “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” “Mormon,” “Book of Mormon” and related trade and service marks from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and corresponding agencies in a significant number of foreign countries.

We are confident that you are committed to avoiding misleading statements that cause unwarranted confusion and that may disparage or infringe the intellectual property rights discussed above. Accordingly, we respectfully request the following:

  1. As reflected in the AP Style Guide, we ask that you and your organization refrain from referring to members of that polygamous sect as “fundamentalist Mormons” or “fundamentalist” members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  2. We ask that, when reporting about this Texas-based polygamous sect or any other polygamous group, you avoid either explicitly or implicitly any inference that these groups are affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  3. On those occasions when it may be necessary in your reporting to refer to the historical practice of plural marriage in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, that you make very clear that the Church does not condone the practice of polygamy and that it has been forbidden in the Church for over one hundred years. Moreover, we absolutely condemn arranged or forced “marriages” of underage girls to anyone under any circumstances.

Stated simply, we would like to be known and recognized for whom we are and what we believe, and not be inaccurately associated with beliefs and practices that we condemn in the strongest terms. We would be grateful if you could circulate or copy this letter to your editorial staff and to your legal counsel.

We thank you for your consideration of these important matters.

Sincerely,

Lance B. Wickman

General Counsel

50 posted on 06/01/2013 1:57:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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