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To: NKP_Vet

But did not Galatians also say that in Christ there is “no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female?”

Also Paul says to the husbands to “love their wives as Christ loves his bride, the Church.”


7 posted on 06/01/2013 3:45:54 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Also Paul says to the husbands to “love their wives as Christ loves his bride, the Church.”

Exactly and wives are to obey their husbands.


10 posted on 06/01/2013 3:57:34 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Biggirl

“But did not Galatians also say that in Christ there is “no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female?””

You are misapplying scripture. The Galatians quote is in the context of salvation and not role distinction.

True biblical Christianity demonstrates the understanding of God’s desire for order established at creation (see Genesis). Order is not a “ruling over”/domination but a sensible, loving plan for living and for the gathering of His church. Paul speaks to the New Testament believers in various places to remind them of this to remind them/us that we stray from God’s desire for order at our own peril. So, women keeping silent in the church (God’s words) is not to diminish women (as women would construe this), but to establish God’s order for church gatherings. God does not look any more favorably on the man’s role in church-gathering than He does on the women who gather there. The preacher who preaches and the the listener who receives are both serving God.

Paul says, “But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” He is not diminishing the woman (is He diminishing Christ?). He is establishing His order. So, when talk of the headcovering is mentioned, it is not a cultural thing as many would suggest, but it is part of God’s desire for order (and for ensuring that Christ receives all the glory—and not man...and not woman.) And the scripture goes on to say this: “For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.” God’s order is looked down on from glory. The angels observe it and marvel. The obedience shown by regenerate sinners causes the angels to wonder at the glory of Christ. Yet, men and women engage in petty arguing over their biblically defined roles that indicate a “less-than-regenerate” spirit within them. It has always amused me that the little human bickerings regarding men and women’s roles in the church always come down to human understanding—and men and women do not realize it! We are not following some man-crafted set of conventions, but God’s plan for the Church of His Dear Son! And we sit and quibble, like the disciples on the road to Jerusalem over who shall be greatest in the kingdom! There is only One who is the Greatest and that is Christ. We either serve Him or we don’t. So, Paul, mentioning roles/silence/headcoverings is bringing up Godly order, not male-centered dominance. He made them male and female. They are distinct. They have differences. They have different roles. But they (male and female) all worship and serve the same Lord.

Paul concludes his rebukes of the errors in the Corinthian meeting with this: “Let all things be done decently and in order.” God is, after all, a God of order. Why would it be any different when it comes to the roles of men and women?

Interpreting God’s will for men and women in any other way is to add to the scriptures and, thus, be in error biblically.


36 posted on 06/01/2013 5:23:18 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: Biggirl

“But did not Galatians also say that in Christ there is “no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female?””

Yes. More precisely:

“For now that you have faith in Christ you are all sons of God. All of you who were baptised “into” Christ have put on the family likeness of Christ. Gone is the distinction between Jew and Greek, slave and free man, male and female—you are all one in Christ Jesus.” - Galatians 3

So ALL can be forgiven and accepted by God in Christ. That does NOT mean that no one cares if they are free or salve, or that there is no societal difference between free & slave, male & female.


63 posted on 06/01/2013 7:12:36 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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