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Lawyer: Soldier to admit Afghanistan massacre
This Week UK ^ | May 30, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 05/31/2013 10:02:23 AM PDT by billybudd

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To: Alas Babylon!

Dang autocorrect!
That should be:

...through the roof and lot’s of Intel showed increased danger....


41 posted on 05/31/2013 12:25:33 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: billybudd

The gov’t should kill only the terrorists,....Which ARE the Muzzies. I’m sorry if you can’t grasp THAT FACT.


42 posted on 05/31/2013 12:26:48 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: billybudd

Sir, I don’t agree with you wholeheartedly, but I do respect your argument and appreciate your point of view. I would like to apologize for the treatment you have received on this forum, which usually avoids the type of personal attacks you have received here. I’m sorry about that, and I admire your persistence in pressing your point of view.


43 posted on 05/31/2013 12:35:33 PM PDT by binreadin
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To: Resolute Conservative
You really should read Invisible Armies by Max Boot about the history of insurgencies and counterinsurgencies. What you are proposing is the exact opposite of what history teaches in carrying out a successful counterinsurgency. The Soviets tried your approach of utter ruthlessness and it didn't work in Afghanistan. In Vietnam, the US went from a working counterinsurgency campaign to a standard military response and it backfired.

That is not to say that counterinsurgency should be devoid of violent response. But that response needs to be targeted at those actually carrying out the attacks, or else you just build local sympathy for the insurgents.

44 posted on 05/31/2013 12:45:11 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: billybudd; publius911

Turning the other cheek is neither practical nor logical, but often suicidal.


45 posted on 05/31/2013 12:49:50 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: billybudd
They didn’t ask for our sacrifices

They provided sanctuary for Al Queda so that Bin Laden could murder close to 3,000 Americans in one day. This soldier had served four tours of duty before he cracked. He should be hospitalized and receive help for his mental condition. Personally I have doubts anytime innocent victims is used to describe any one in that throwback to the 7th century. Some of those innocents are setting IED's off pretty regularly!!!!

46 posted on 05/31/2013 12:55:43 PM PDT by ontap (ion. Would you suggest that that organization)
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To: dirtboy

I read it. There are points that I disagreed with based on the kind of ruthlessness deployed and the actual targeting parameters. Even the Russians displayed emotional content in their attempt. We sure as heck did in VietNam. You must be totally detached and fight your enemy as they fight you.

What I propose, in lieu of laying waste, is pulling all our military assets home (from everywhere and sealing our borders) and only project power via strategic weapons. We should never, I repeat never, put boots on the ground anywhere we do not intend on occupying on a indefinite timeline. Which we will never do again because we as a society have lost our edge to survive and take the heat and being called imperialist. we had rather be everyone’s friend and try and buy cooperation/loyalty from people who have no concept of cooperation/loyalty outside a primitive bond to a false god.

No other cultures’ life value should be placed above ours. It is time we practice self-preservation for a while.


47 posted on 05/31/2013 12:57:06 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: dirtboy

What backfired in VietNam was a lack of leadership and a willingness to bring a prejudiced end to the conflict couple with a movement at home of dispassionate hedonism. The first mistake was going there, the second was not having the will to do what it took to win, counterinsurgency or not.


48 posted on 05/31/2013 12:59:34 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: binreadin

Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it.


49 posted on 05/31/2013 1:25:42 PM PDT by billybudd
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