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To: dsutah

He’s gone, so the line between brave and foolish may not be as far as you think.

But my son is in the scouts, and I can tell you that, for the most part, we have lost. The kids don’t care, they don’t understand what the issue is, they think it is stupid that adults are quitting because of the ruling.

They have been raised in a society that has actively promoted the gay agenda. You can tell them that homosexuality is wrong, that pre-marital sex is wrong. In my case, my kids are fine with that, but they still don’t see a problem hanging around with their gay friends.

Like it or not, most of us will have the occasional gay person in our midst. I don’t ask, I don’t tell. I don’t care. I’m not interested in other people’s sex lives. I wish the BSA had said “we aren’t interested in sex, so don’t mention it and we won’t ask” instead of actively promoting homosexuality as acceptable.

But there are gays in scouts now. I’m glad they didn’t allow adults who were gay — I wish they hadn’t allowed women to be in positions of direct authority over the boys, because that weakened the case against gays (sexual attraction).

My wife is a leader in my son’s troop, but in a non-interactive role (advancement chair). Having a female scoutmaster seems wrong to me. Having a gay scoutmaster is wrong.

But I’m not telling my son to quit, I’m not pulling him out, I’m going to support him as he works to finish his Eagle rank. Then I’m done with scouting. My church already has nothing to do with scouts.

My big problem with this chance, which I strongly opposed, is that now gay scouts can be open about it, which means they can be more aggressive, and worse, you could well end up with “gay troops”, where tentmates are both gay and how will you control the boys then?

I haven’t met many people who think it would be a good idea to allow 16-year-old boys to be in tents on campouts with 14-year-old girls — you can’t possibly supervise what happens in tents.

But now the BSA has embrased the idea that a sexually attracted 16-year-old CAN be in a tent unsupervised with the object of his attraction. I don’t see how that ever works.

Of course, this is the problem with “Gay” — it is unnatural, and therefore there is no way to make a “gay troop” where people are NOT attracted to one another. You could put one gay guy with one lesbian girl, and that’s it. You put ANY OTHER person with those two, and you have possible sexual attraction.

THe natural order gives us TWO groups, of millions of people each, with no sexual attraction. Boy Scouts is about many things, and NOT ABOUT SEX, but now it IS about sex.


50 posted on 05/29/2013 10:12:38 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
My big problem with this chan[g]e, which I strongly opposed, is that now gay scouts can be open about it, which means they can be more aggressive ...where tentmates are both gay...how will you control the boys then?
I haven’t met many people who think it would be a good idea to allow 16-year-old boys to be in tents on campouts with 14-year-old girls — you can’t possibly supervise what happens in tents.
But now the BSA has embra[c]ed the idea that a sexually attracted 16-year-old CAN be in a tent unsupervised with the object of his attraction.

Bears repeating. The wrongheadedness of National's decision is mind-boggling.

53 posted on 05/29/2013 10:38:48 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There can be no dialogue with the prince of this world." -- Francis)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I don’t ask, I don’t tell. I don’t care. I’m not interested in other people’s sex lives.

That was a great post you just posted and I agree with everything you said, except the part I italicized above.

I do care...at least, I try to care. I also work around a few people who are homosexuals, and if I ever get the opportunity...(which I probably won't) I will tell them about freedom and salvation in Christ. They are killing themselves physically and spiritually and love demands that Christians be ready to help. I pray God gives me courage, wisdom and opportunity.

89 posted on 05/29/2013 1:21:37 PM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It's about inflicting a liability on volunteer leaders for which you can't get insurance.

That's the end of that organization.

125 posted on 05/29/2013 3:40:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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