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1 posted on 05/25/2013 4:25:30 PM PDT by re_tail20
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We need to see the details of this Bill.


2 posted on 05/25/2013 4:29:49 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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How magnanimous of the Illinois House to “allow” their citizens to exercise a Constitutional Right, with some prodding by the Federal Court System.
3 posted on 05/25/2013 4:30:43 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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The interesting thing is that Governor Quinn, Senate President Cullerton, Cook County Board Chairwoman Preckwinkle, and Chicago Mayor Emanuel all oppose this House bill of Speaker Madigan’s.

Cullerton has threatened to block it, and Quinn has threatened to veto it.

If no bill is signed into law by June 9, and they adjourn next week, it will be de facto legal concealed carry anywhere in Illinois, even in Cook County and Chicago.

The coming week is going to be a great show. Start popping the popcorn.


4 posted on 05/25/2013 4:31:00 PM PDT by re_tail20
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This is hilarious, but as much as the newspaper implies that it is a done deal, page 2 says that neither the state senate nor the governor will agree to it.

Which should be fine with the Republicans, because they can now loudly say that they *tried* to pass a reasonable gun law, but the Democrats were too unreasonable to allow it.

And all the Republicans have to do now is hold out until June 9th, and Illinois will automatically become a gun liberty state, no matter *what* the Democrats do.

The cynical Rahm Emanuel, mayor of Chicago, has already seen what is going to happen, so has preemptively tried to claim credit when Chicago’s crime rate drops.


5 posted on 05/25/2013 4:33:16 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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It has to go through the Senate. Gov. Quinn will likely ("court mandate? What court mandate?") veto.

Will we have a carry law June 9? Remains to be seen.

12 posted on 05/25/2013 5:25:45 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("You keep using that verse, but I do not think it means what you think it means." --I. Montoya)
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If this passes will Chicago move to Canada?


15 posted on 05/25/2013 5:31:17 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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It does appear much of IL will have some form of CCW, but mark my words, Chicago will find a way to thwart it.


18 posted on 05/25/2013 5:40:56 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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19 posted on 05/25/2013 5:42:21 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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Full text of the cc act as passed by the House is here:

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/98/SB/09800SB2193ham001.htm

As for Quinn and Rham-bow, if you follow the discussion at illinoiscarry.com, the best theory (I think) is that Quinn wants to sabotage the act so Lisa has to deal with the default to Constitutional Carry on June 9th. But if Quinn could get the Senate to stall it, Lisa has given herself enough time to file cert and push the whole thing into limbo while SCOTUS decides the matter. But that could go badly, and Daddy Madigan is, we believe, trying to hand her a clean slate for her gubernatorial bid, so both he and she want this done before the June 9th deadline.

This bill, BTW is Madigan’s creation, and he gave a speech Friday which suggests he is solidly behind it. No surprise, really, in that. But what is a bit surprising is he managed to kill Cullerton’s Senate alternative, which, by all accounts was much worse. And he had to do that by pulling dem senators away from Cullerton. He’s the Speaker of the House? How did he do that? Anyway, it’s Madigan senior vs Cullerton, and Madigan (Lisa) vs Quinn, a huge power struggle, in which I would, if I were a betting man (and I am not), would put all my chips on Madigan winning both contests.


28 posted on 05/25/2013 6:10:31 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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I hope they get this passed, but I don’t see it happening.

People should automatically have this right!


40 posted on 05/25/2013 7:08:32 PM PDT by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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Illinois is the only state in the nation to ban most people from carrying a concealed gun outside the home

Again, I remind all that Hawaii's May Carry absolutely denies these privileges to anyone except personal buddies of the Chiefs of Police on each island.
53 posted on 05/25/2013 8:34:37 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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WHY EVERYONE NEEDS GUNS

When crap happens and a dangerous nutjob hacks at people, chews a homeless guys’ face off because he’s on bath salts, is trying to murder someone for a few bucks, or wants to cause a riot and chaos,

who comes in to deal with the REALITY OF THE SITUATION WITH THE NECESSARY TOOLS?

Liberal idiot professors and “experts” who, if they can just talk to the person, will get them to stop hacking, and shooting, and slashing and blowing up people?

Or does everyone wait for someone - an ARMED someone - to overpower and take out the nutjob?

Every damn time, they wait for the ARMED person, from wherever they come from - to DEAL WITH THE REALITY OF THIS WORLD.


55 posted on 05/25/2013 9:20:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (as with everything, shoving it in people's fc could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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