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Megachurch pastor predicts surge in Boy Scout alternative programs after vote to accept gays
AL.com ^ | 24MAY2013 | Greg Garrison

Posted on 05/25/2013 9:00:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama - A Birmingham megachurch pastor predicts a surge in alternatives to the Boy Scouts of America after a decision Thursday by the Boy Scouts to accept openly gay scouts.

The Rev. Harry Reeder III, senior pastor of the 4,100-member Briarwood Presbyterian Church, former moderator of the Presbyterian Church in America and outspoken critic of efforts to change Boy Scout policy on homosexuality, said evangelical churches are a bedrock of support for the Boy Scout tradition in Alabama.

That’s now in danger, he said.

“When a church holds to a biblical social ethic of sex only between a man and a woman in monogamous marriage, it cannot support an organization that opposes that,” said. “That would introduce sexual anarchy into the teaching of the church. There will be a significant response from evangelical churches.”

Reeder said evangelical churches have been moving toward other youth development programs and he expects those to accelerate. The Southern Baptist Convention’s Royal Ambassadors program, the Christian Brigade program from England, Pioneer Clubs and the AWANA evangelical parachurch program embraced by several denominations are likely to be viewed as possible alternatives, Reeder said.

“Something that is this much of a deviation from ethical commitments may give birth to something new, a continuing organization that maintains the historic scouting program,” Reeder said.

Briarwood Presbyterian Church currently hosts Troop 254, with Cub Scouts and Boy Scout troops. Any decision to change support for hosting Boy Scouts will be made by the church, Reeder said. “Our elders will make that decision,” he said. “We have been very impressed with the effect of our leaders and we have produced a number of Eagle Scouts who have had outstanding achievements.”

But Thursday’s national vote puts evangelical Christian churches in a difficult position, and it also puts the Boy Scouts in an awkward position, he said.

The Boy Scouts plan to start welcoming openly gay scouts on Jan. 1, but still have a prohibition against openly gay scout leaders.

“Their position is illogical,” Reeder said. “There is no reason to maintain a moral position that the leaders can’t be homosexual. When you are approving the practice among members, how can you not approve it for leaders?”

He expects the Boy Scouts to move toward eventual acceptance of openly gay leaders.

“There are some clear things that are going to happen – continued pressure from the Lesbian, Bisexual, gay, transgender community and from donors for acceptance of openly gay leaders, and an exodus from a significant number of participants and evangelical church-based organizations,” Reeder said.

The Boy Scout oath of “duty to God” becomes problematic, he said.

“They now have to address their Scout oath,” Reeder said. “Clearly, they have abandoned all the primary religions that maintain the historic sexual ethic of one man, one woman in the context of marriage. I see no reason to maintain its previous principled commitment to a theistic oath. If you’ve abandoned the sixth commandment, that sexuality belongs in the context of marriage between a man and a woman, you’ve abandoned your duty to God.”

He expects churches and parents to look for alternatives to the Boy Scouts. “Parents are going to have to vote with their money and feet whether they will sustain scouting,” Reeder said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alternatives; boyscouts; bsa; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; queeringamerica
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1 posted on 05/25/2013 9:00:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The Boy Scouts put up a good fight and were winning every battle. I wonder what caused them to decide to go fag.


2 posted on 05/25/2013 9:03:38 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you think ObamaCare is a train wreck, wait until you see the amnesty bill.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

With the power of the Internet the troops that resigned from the BSA can get together and form their own competing organization.


3 posted on 05/25/2013 9:03:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Because they were infiltrated by Leftists who may or may not have been homosexuals themselves. Then there were the threats by the BSA’s corporate sponsors to pull funding if they didn’t go homo.


4 posted on 05/25/2013 9:05:12 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"The Straight Scouts of America" would be a fine name, and would stick a finger in the eye of the homosexual bullies.
5 posted on 05/25/2013 9:05:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Come to think of it, we should start calling the homosexualized organization "The Gay Scouts of America."

Another poke in their eye.

6 posted on 05/25/2013 9:06:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Boi Scouts are dead. Long live the Boy Scouts.


7 posted on 05/25/2013 9:06:22 AM PDT by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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8 posted on 05/25/2013 9:07:34 AM PDT by narses
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Perhaps they aim to change their name to Obamajugend.


9 posted on 05/25/2013 9:07:44 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Then the Gay Scouts of America can merge their femness with the Girl Scouts of America and be completely fabulous!


10 posted on 05/25/2013 9:08:35 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

There won’t be any militant gay scouts when there are no scouts. Coming soon....


11 posted on 05/25/2013 9:08:46 AM PDT by Paladin2
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The Boy Scouts of Canada lost 54% of their membership after going homo. It’ll be interesting to see how the numbers play out here in the USA.


12 posted on 05/25/2013 9:09:55 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Lots of the scout troops meet at parishes and churches around the country.

I don't thing they can take the chance of being held accountable of anything that might happen on their property.

13 posted on 05/25/2013 9:09:56 AM PDT by mware
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Morally Bent Scouts of America.


14 posted on 05/25/2013 9:09:56 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"The Straight Scouts of America" would be a fine name

The left would call them the SS. Need something different.

But this is the end of Scouting as we know it. I used to be the Chairman of the Catholic Scouting Committee in Florida. I don't know how I could reconcile this decision with Christian principles.

I will start calling the BSA the Gay Boys from now on. A phoenix will rise from the ashes.

15 posted on 05/25/2013 9:13:07 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: mware

What percentage do you think meet there?


16 posted on 05/25/2013 9:13:20 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The top leadership of the BSA couldn't bear the thought of losing their corporate sponsors so they pushed this wicked measure through even though it was against the wishes of most of the rank and file.
17 posted on 05/25/2013 9:13:27 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Royal Ranger! I’m not AG and I love it!


18 posted on 05/25/2013 9:14:22 AM PDT by vpintheak (We are the chosen few! Be thankful for it!)
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To: Menehune56

Let them keep their corporate sponsors and lose their membership.


19 posted on 05/25/2013 9:15:41 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: FatherofFive

The problem I see...somewhere in the next three years...some thirteen year old scout is going to sexually assault a twelve-year old scout, and the cops will be called in. Charges will be done, and a court case rigged up. What to worry about though...is the civil case. The parents will sue the scout organization, and hundreds of thousands will be at stake. After that....every scout organization will require some bonded insurance deal, and the cost per year will range from the hundreds to the thousands.

It’s a spiral from this point.


20 posted on 05/25/2013 9:16:22 AM PDT by pepsionice
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