Monster 4 Wheeler.
Posted on 05/23/2013 2:06:19 PM PDT by Nachum
Here ya go.
“I came across another little piece of information regarding the IRSgate. They were not only giving hell to those 501C4 applications, but they were REVIEWING all adoption applications for tax relief “
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Hmmm...Haven’t seen that reported. Do you have a link?
Wouldn't surprise me if she committed suicide. Fine with me, she can then meet the devil. She deserves it.
Ms. Lerner should already be on the street.
First I agree with you 100%
That being said the loophole I see here is that congress is neither the judiciary or the "administrators" of the IRS. They can find her in contempt of Congress and the consequences are similar, but separation of powers means they have to go to court for various things.
Someone on one of the FOX shows last night (Greta, perhaps) said that the laws pertaining to Civil Service employees require a 30 day period of administrative leave with pay, for “review”, I suppose, before an employee can be terminated. Then I would guess that there are probably appeals after that.
Newt (on Greta) was talking about how some of these laws go back to the 1800’s, and how badly the system is in dire need of total overhaul, as opposed to just going after certain individuals (or by implication) any given administration. He does have a point there, and I would extend it:
The TEA Party is a threat to the GOP-e, and I am not so sure the same sort of thing might not go on under a GOP administration, directed at the TEA Party. Some of these people are career vampires, regardless of who appointed them. Mr. Shulman, for example, seems to have at a minimum been “looking the other way”...
Admin leave means “with pay”.
With time to think more questions:
She refused to resign...
Was the union paying her lawyers?
It’s one of the reasons teachers join : they get paid legal counseling if a situation arises while performing duties and employed If she resigns no legal support? She gets who they send her which just happens to be the same law firm as..... A law firm cannot represent two sides of an issue but they can represent two facets on one side of the case.
Thoughts?
So how is it the union has anything to do with them?
(1) IRS simply can't operate if you have jack booted federal thugs ~ Lois Lerner certainly qualifies ~ pleading the 5th about ACTIONS TAKEN AS AN OFFICER OF THE GOVERNMENT. She is the very sort of individual the Bill of Rights was written to protect all the rest of us from!
(2) The Congress has an advantage if she continues to hold a government position in that they can take action against her as an OFFICER OF THE GOVERNMENT and strip her of her earned benefits ~ if they can figure out the right charge to make. And we all want Lois stripped bare and nekkid (in court), right?
Now, about union relationships with Lois, she has a job that prohibits union representation. I'd think that extends to her legal bills, although her hubby will probably get a good rate from some of his buddies ~ he's a tax lawyer you know.
I'm preparing to plead the 5th on my next federal income tax filing BTW ~ see how far that gets me eh!!
The report regarding the reviewing of adopted children was seen of FOX news, “The Five”, and brought up by Dana Perino, on Thursday, May 24, 2013.
We will probably never know just how many people have been blackmailed nor how often.
Threaten Roberts? Somebody probably did.
One has to have or value character and reputation to be disgraced. This is all a game to people like Lerner. She will never miss a beat.
My post was a response to post 35-—”I didn’t know until the other day, that they [IRS] even had a union.”
That poster had read this article:
http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/20/obama-and-the-irs-the-smoking
When it comes to membership you'll find people at those higher levels joining for the purpose of signing onto a members only health insurance program ~ e.g. several postal groups are like that, or maybe long term care, which NTEU offers.
Such members still do not qualify to be represented.
I noticed someone else had claimed the IG's report had a union rep present in all interviews. Wonder if that was the case when it came to the grade levels involved in the scandal ~ or if that was just if a bargaining unit person was being questioned. I know at my level if a union rep wanted to be present I'd had USPS and the union in court ~ they'd never get to talk to me unless I wanted to, and I did much more than my fair share of whitleblowing over the years. Show me to the federal witness protection program please!!!!!!
I think the folks at American Spectator owe it to the rest of us to AKS the right questions eh. They didn't. Most likely they've never had anyone on their editorial board who worked in a federal agency at the headquarters unit. Well, maybe Charles Guy, but he was always wrong ~ as I've demonstrated numerous time.
Let me interpret that ~ you can't just walk away from some of these federal agencies. They have to let you leave first ~ and they can make you talk with no 5th amendment protection whatsoever about what you did on the job. These folks were, at the bottom end, the rough equivalent of Captains and Majors. Some of the middle men were the equivalent of Colonels, and there's even a couple of Generals in the dock. Thse are not janitorial staff.
“I noticed someone else had claimed the IG’s report had a union rep present in all interviews.”
Someone? Did you see that in an article? Incorrect as far as I know. The someone you are referring to may have been referring to Holly Paz, Director of Exempt Organizations.
Holly Paz - Director of Exempt Organizations (sat in on 36 of 41 IG interviews of subordinates). She was interviewed by Issa committee staff on Tues of this week but has not yet testified before Issa’s committee.
” A law firm cannot represent two sides of an issue but they can represent two facets on one side of the case.”
Yes. I have had first hand experience with this in civil court.
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