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Obama speech on counterterrorism--LIVE THREAD
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Posted on 05/23/2013 11:08:19 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie

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To: betty boop
Given all the applause Captain Zero got in his "handling" of the lady "heckler," I had the eerie feeling that I had inadvertently stumbled into a Politburo meeting:

Where none dare to be the first to stop clapping.

441 posted on 05/23/2013 3:11:05 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: Whenifhow

Just found the Fact Sheet Obama is willing to share with the citizens (rules from the new rule book). This was posted today at the White House website:

Fact Sheet: U.S. Policy Standards and Procedures for the Use of Force in Counterterrorism Operations Outside the United States and Areas of Active Hostilities

Since his first day in office, President Obama has been clear that the United States will use all available tools of national power to protect the American people from the terrorist threat posed by al-Qa’ida and its associated forces. The President has also made clear that, in carrying on this fight, we will uphold our laws and values and will share as much information as possible with the American people and the Congress, consistent with our national security needs and the proper functioning of the Executive Branch. To these ends, the President has approved, and senior members of the Executive Branch have briefed to the Congress, written policy standards and procedures that formalize and strengthen the Administration’s rigorous process for reviewing and approving operations to capture or employ lethal force against terrorist targets outside the United States and outside areas of active hostilities. Additionally, the President has decided to share, in this document, certain key elements of these standards and procedures with the American people so that they can make informed judgments and hold the Executive Branch accountable.

This document provides information regarding counterterrorism policy standards and procedures that are either already in place or will be transitioned into place over time. As Administration officials have stated publicly on numerous occasions, we are continually working to refine, clarify, and strengthen our standards and processes for using force to keep the nation safe from the terrorist threat. One constant is our commitment to conducting counterterrorism operations lawfully. In addition, we consider the separate question of whether force should be used as a matter of policy. The most important policy consideration, particularly when the United States contemplates using lethal force, is whether our actions protect American lives.

Preference for Capture
The policy of the United States is not to use lethal force when it is feasible to capture a terrorist suspect, because capturing a terrorist offers the best opportunity to gather meaningful intelligence and to mitigate and disrupt terrorist plots. Capture operations are conducted only against suspects who may lawfully be captured or otherwise taken into custody by the United States and only when the operation can be conducted in accordance with all applicable law and consistent with our obligations to other sovereign states.

Standards for the Use of Lethal Force
Any decision to use force abroad – even when our adversaries are terrorists dedicated to killing American citizens – is a significant one. Lethal force will not be proposed or pursued as punishment or as a substitute for prosecuting a terrorist suspect in a civilian court or a military commission. Lethal force will be used only to prevent or stop attacks against U.S. persons, and even then, only when capture is not feasible and no other reasonable alternatives exist to address the threat effectively. In particular, lethal force will be used outside areas of active hostilities only when the following preconditions are met:

First, there must be a legal basis for using lethal force, whether it is against a senior operational leader of a terrorist organization or the forces that organization is using or intends to use to conduct terrorist attacks.

Second, the United States will use lethal force only against a target that poses a continuing, imminent threat to U.S. persons. It is simply not the case that all terrorists pose a continuing, imminent threat to U.S. persons; if a terrorist does not pose such a threat, the United States will not use lethal force.

Third, the following criteria must be met before lethal action may be taken:

Near certainty that the terrorist target is present;

Near certainty that non-combatants[1] will not be injured or killed;

An assessment that capture is not feasible at the time of the operation;

An assessment that the relevant governmental authorities in the country where action is contemplated cannot or will not effectively address the threat to U.S. persons; and

An assessment that no other reasonable alternatives exist to effectively address the threat to U.S. persons.

Finally, whenever the United States uses force in foreign territories, international legal principles, including respect for sovereignty and the law of armed conflict, impose important constraints on the ability of the United States to act unilaterally – and on the way in which the United States can use force. The United States respects national sovereignty and international law.

U.S. Government Coordination and Review
Decisions to capture or otherwise use force against individual terrorists outside the United States and areas of active hostilities are made at the most senior levels of the U.S. Government, informed by departments and agencies with relevant expertise and institutional roles. Senior national security officials – including the deputies and heads of key departments and agencies – will consider proposals to make sure that our policy standards are met, and attorneys – including the senior lawyers of key departments and agencies – will review and determine the legality of proposals.

These decisions will be informed by a broad analysis of an intended target’s current and past role in plots threatening U.S. persons; relevant intelligence information the individual could provide; and the potential impact of the operation on ongoing terrorism plotting, on the capabilities of terrorist organizations, on U.S. foreign relations, and on U.S. intelligence collection. Such analysis will inform consideration of whether the individual meets both the legal and policy standards for the operation.

Other Key Elements
U.S. Persons. If the United States considers an operation against a terrorist identified as a U.S. person, the Department of Justice will conduct an additional legal analysis to ensure that such action may be conducted against the individual consistent with the Constitution and laws of the United States.

Reservation of Authority. These new standards and procedures do not limit the President’s authority to take action in extraordinary circumstances when doing so is both lawful and necessary to protect the United States or its allies.

Congressional Notification. Since entering office, the President has made certain that the appropriate Members of Congress have been kept fully informed about our counterterrorism operations. Consistent with this strong and continuing commitment to congressional oversight, appropriate Members of the Congress will be regularly provided with updates identifying any individuals against whom lethal force has been approved. In addition, the appropriate committees of Congress will be notified whenever a counterterrorism operation covered by these standards and procedures has been conducted.


[1] Non-combatants are individuals who may not be made the object of attack under applicable international law. The term “non-combatant” does not include an individual who is part of a belligerent party to an armed conflict, an individual who is taking a direct part in hostilities, or an individual who is targetable in the exercise of national self-defense. Males of military age may be non-combatants; it is not the case that all military-aged males in the vicinity of a target are deemed to be combatants.


442 posted on 05/23/2013 3:12:15 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: fivecatsandadog

;>)


443 posted on 05/23/2013 3:15:20 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: publius911

LOL! short speech indeed!


444 posted on 05/23/2013 3:15:45 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: betty boop

excellant post!
summed it all up well.


445 posted on 05/23/2013 3:18:03 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: Jim Robinson
My post 442 is a Fact Sheet Obama is giving citizens about his new rules of war against terrorists. This was posted on White House website today and I just found it.

Make your own conclusions - I still say it's stating, “I (Obama) will stand with my brother Muslims, not kill the Muslim terrorists in their quest for Muslim domination, and screw the United States.”

446 posted on 05/23/2013 3:19:30 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: BlueDragon; Whenifhow; Marcella

:) If I find anything on this I will pm you all.


447 posted on 05/23/2013 3:29:50 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ping to 442 AND 446.


448 posted on 05/23/2013 3:32:02 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella
I don't trust him to follow the rules.

/johnny

449 posted on 05/23/2013 3:36:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Recovering Ex-hippie.

ATMs cause unemployment in the financial industry, and...

Obama: Increase in domestic terrorism fueled by Internet
washintonexaminer.com | 5/23/13 | Charlie Spiering
Posted on 05/23/2013 3:15:35 PM PDT by ColdOne
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3023190/posts


450 posted on 05/23/2013 3:50:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Marcella

Where is the judgment?


451 posted on 05/23/2013 3:58:45 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: ColdOne; Marcella

Thanks!


452 posted on 05/23/2013 4:01:23 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: LurkedLongEnough

“Where is the judgment?”

What do you mean?


453 posted on 05/23/2013 4:13:25 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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454 posted on 05/23/2013 5:00:31 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: betty boop

(1) Looks like the prez has come out yet one more time to exhort us to let him “fix” the very thing he broke in the first place, and fix it “his way,” the only “correct” way, ya know. (Whoever says otherwise likely will be contacted by the IRS pretty soon....)


Your irony has a funny accent to it.. and smells like the truth..
The 3 Stooges are statesmen compared to this White Hut..

Journalism is dead... Obama and Jarret are playing “Weekend at Ernies” with the media..
The truth is hyperbolic.. and Most “heros” are in their closets.. very quiet..

You know........ COWERING... praying they will not be found out..
They are not all dead........ just scared.. (SPITLESS)..


455 posted on 05/24/2013 1:08:25 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Whenifhow
Thanks for the links. Here are the narcissist index ratings:

"I" = 47 times
"me" = 16 times
"my" = 15 times

Narcissism total = 78

456 posted on 05/24/2013 3:24:37 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Grammarly found 44 critical writing issues and generated 3 word choice corrections for your text. Score: 49 of 100 (weak, needs revision)

https://ed.grammarly.com/register/signup/report_pale/?newv=1

457 posted on 05/24/2013 4:08:43 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: txhurl

Watch Monday, scheduled MD events...


458 posted on 05/24/2013 5:04:06 AM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA remove zero)
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To: Nita Nupress

Covinced he has been taking speech lessons from kim jung un over in that there N. Korea...


459 posted on 05/24/2013 5:15:57 AM PDT by seeker41 (Take back your country before it is too late-STOP islamic expansion in the USA remove zero)
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To: noexcuses

If that were true, why was he so badly stumbling for words sans the prompter? Probably well rehearsed and staged!


460 posted on 05/24/2013 6:09:43 AM PDT by blaveda (blaveda)
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