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To: Dead Corpse

Your dishonesty is staggering, the libertarian party has never “drifted off to” anything, it has always been the same, although you blatantly lied about their abortion position in your post 39 when you “conflated” the LP with their and your ideology, libertarianism.

There was never a time when the libertarians were not pro-abortion, that is yet another lie that you want to try, they were pro-abortion before Roe V Wade.

1.4 Abortion
Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.

1.3 Personal Relationships
Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.


59 posted on 05/22/2013 12:23:45 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

http://www.libertarianfaq.org/index.php?title=Are_libertarians_pro_choice_or_pro_life%3F

Pay attention to this part...

“Nearly all Libertarians, however, believe that the government has no business subsidizing or funding abortions through welfare or other social schemes. “

Which automatically makes us more “conservative” than some GOP members who wouldn’t touch such a stance with a ten foot pole.

Further... Pay attention to the wikipedia article on this as well...

To whit:

“Opposition to legal abortion

The group Libertarians for Life argues that humans in the zygotic, embryonic, and fetal stages of development have the same rights as humans in the neonatal stage and beyond. The organization notes that the principles of both the U.S. Libertarian Party and Objectivist ethics require some obligation to children and counter with an appeal to the non-aggression principle:

Non-aggression is an ongoing obligation: it is never optional for anyone, even pregnant women. If the non-aggression obligation did not apply, then earning money versus stealing it and consensual sex versus rape would be morally indifferent behaviors. The obligation not to aggress is pre-political and pre-legal. It does not arise out of contract, agreement, or the law; rather, such devices presuppose this obligation. The obligation would exist even in a state of nature. This is because the obligation comes with our human nature, and we acquire this nature at conception.[3]

Libertarian Republican United States House of Representatives’ member Ron Paul calls for overturning Roe v. Wade and letting the states decide the issue. His son, Republican Senator Rand Paul, calls himself “totally pro-life” and supports “any and all legislation that would end abortion or lead us in the direction of ending abortion.”[17] In 2008, the Libertarian Party candidate for president was Bob Barr who has called abortion “murder” and opposed legalized abortion.[18][19]”

So yeah... You are still just a trolling moron.


60 posted on 05/22/2013 12:44:19 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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