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Sheriff's plan to urge people to report suspicious behavior unleashes storm of criticism
Sun Sentinel ^ | May 17, 2013 | Ben Wolford

Posted on 05/18/2013 7:06:20 AM PDT by Rennes Templar

A program in Palm Beach County intended to encourage residents to report suspicious behavior is attracting resistance from around the state.

Under the proposed "Violence Prevention Program," anyone who sees a potentially dangerous situation — a schizophrenic person with weapons, a war veteran making threats to passersby — could call a 24-hour hotline. Legitimate-sounding calls would trigger a visit by specially trained deputies in plain clothes or by mental health professionals.

The Palm Beach County Sheriff says violence prevention unit could thwart would-be killers like the recent mass shooters in Connecticut and Colorado. The program will cost $3.2 million in the first year. The Florida Legislature agreed to pay $1 million of it.

Despite Sheriff Ric Bradshaw's ostensibly good-willed intent, the plan has been compared to Big Brother, the KGB, Castro's Cuba...

Conservative bloggers around the country are condemning this as a First Amendment violation. They say the government of Palm Beach County is trying to encourage residents to tell on their neighbors for anti-government speech. Email messages have spilled into Gov. Rick Scott's inbox, where hundreds of Florida residents urged him to line-item veto the state funding for the program.

~snip~

In the article, Bradshaw said, "We want people to call us if the guy down the street says he hates the government, hates the mayor and he's gonna shoot him. What does it hurt to have somebody knock on a door and ask, 'Hey, is everything OK?'"

~snip~

Dmitry Levin, of Boca Raton, grew up in the Soviet Union, where he said the government encouraged neighbors to "snitch on everybody."

"It's a specific telephone line to report your neighbor who doesn't like the government," Levin said. "When I read that, my jaw dropped. That's KGB in its finest form. The next step would be, what, bonuses for reporting?"

(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


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"There will be no cash rewards for calling, a sheriff's office spokeswoman confirmed."
1 posted on 05/18/2013 7:06:20 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Rennes Templar

What does it hurt to have somebody knock on a door and ask, ‘Hey, is everything OK?’”

What could possibly go wrong. Hide your dog!!!!


2 posted on 05/18/2013 7:10:30 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot. 969 yall.)
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To: Rennes Templar
I guess they'll kick in every door, from every crank call, and kill every doggy too.
Sorry about your Grandma, but someone said she was anti Government, so, here's a Cert
for a free cremation.
3 posted on 05/18/2013 7:10:44 AM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism needs a re-awakening plan for the American public)
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To: Rennes Templar
a war veteran making threats to passersby

We vets are really what is wrong with this country!!!sarc/on

4 posted on 05/18/2013 7:11:42 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Rennes Templar
"Under the proposed "Violence Prevention Program," anyone who sees a potentially dangerous situation — a schizophrenic person with weapons, a war veteran making threats to passersby — could call a 24-hour hotline. Legitimate-sounding calls would trigger a visit by specially trained deputies in plain clothes or by mental health professionals. "

But if a caller describes a demographic that is associated with the majority of violent crime, don't expect any response at all.

5 posted on 05/18/2013 7:12:38 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: ontap

Janet Napoleonitonoh thinks so


6 posted on 05/18/2013 7:13:42 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot. 969 yall.)
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To: Sooth2222

spot on. leave the aspiring rap artist turning his life around alone.


7 posted on 05/18/2013 7:14:58 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot. 969 yall.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Not sure how I come down on this one.... On one hand, I get that the government it intrusive and that this service could be abused... On the other hand, there are plenty of examples where had the alarm been sounded, a tragedy “may” have been avoided.

I don’t think I have a problem with it.

Check back with me after noon, Friday night should be worn off by then.

Any good Freeper hangover remedies out there??


8 posted on 05/18/2013 7:15:14 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: Rennes Templar
Looks like the Sheriff is looking to start a new career in the IRS


9 posted on 05/18/2013 7:16:45 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: ontap

They might have had a better response if they said to report Muslims carrying pressure cookers.


10 posted on 05/18/2013 7:18:32 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (The true Obama persona is emerging, the one from his first Presidential debate.)
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To: Rennes Templar
Vote Fascist photo VoteFascsist_zps2e456e0a.jpgFabulous prizes photo Beaninformant_zpsa8a62eb5.jpg
11 posted on 05/18/2013 7:18:58 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: WomBom

No cures but love your tagline.


12 posted on 05/18/2013 7:19:54 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (The true Obama persona is emerging, the one from his first Presidential debate.)
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To: ontap
We vets are really what is wrong with this country!!!sarc/on

Sen. Feinstein Says All Our Veterans Are Mentally Ill And Can’t Own Guns

13 posted on 05/18/2013 7:21:48 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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...no cash rewards for calling

The sheriff overlooked "Here are your Starbucks and Apple iTunes gift cards, Good Citizen. Thanks for the tip."

14 posted on 05/18/2013 7:22:36 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Knock on door?
Yeah, a BIG one that knocks it down.


15 posted on 05/18/2013 7:23:42 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Rennes Templar

The suspicious behavior noways is the Government


16 posted on 05/18/2013 7:26:05 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Maybe we could have ‘suggestions’ that two men who look like the might be gay - might ‘do it’ in a public bathroom - be turned in... Or how about a bunch of ‘Occupy’ brats? They could be planning on using drugs - let’s stick the police on them... You know, two can play these games...


17 posted on 05/18/2013 7:26:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (Conservatives were Obama's victims, but unlike the press we were aware of it.)
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To: WomBom

People already report suspicious behavior but this sheriff is trying to redefine that to include anything perceived as a threat or criticism of government. He obviously expects a lot more calls with this expanded definition which is why he needs more money.

Have another beer for that hangover. It always worked for me when I was younger.


18 posted on 05/18/2013 7:26:52 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: WomBom

There is nothing to stop anyone calling right now about someone who is acting threatening .

Never has been.

The difference is setting up a program designed to encourage reporting people who are critical of the government.


19 posted on 05/18/2013 7:27:25 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Rennes Templar

1.- No tipsters regarding the Religion of Peace need call.

2.- No Tipsters regarding black uprisings need call.


20 posted on 05/18/2013 7:27:42 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Sooth2222
Legitimate-sounding calls would trigger a visit by specially trained deputies in plain clothes or by mental health professionals.

Someone please tell me how "legitimate-sounding" actually translates to legal definitions of actual infractions of established law?

Further, will the "trained deputies in 'plain' clothes" announce to this 'deluded killer veteran' they are actually LEOs?? Will these "mental health officials" be actual government, or will they be just local hacks there Johnny-on-the spot to hand out that instant diagnosis of schizophrenia?

If I saw three of these people on my doorstep, the shotgun would be 'just out of sight' at the ready.

21 posted on 05/18/2013 7:28:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Rennes Templar

I’ve heard that Palm Beach has 1 cop for every 8 citizens. Talk about too much $$$ in LE hands.


22 posted on 05/18/2013 7:30:07 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: hoosierham

Good point


23 posted on 05/18/2013 7:30:11 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Plain clothes will quickly become full tactical units and armored vehicles. Heaven knows that no one would ever report a neighbor as threatening just because they don't like them. No stigma associated with a squadron of armed LEO’s knocking on your door. Seems like a very solid plan to me. Why don't we have everyone undergo a psychological evaluation and imprison anyone that is deemed a threat. Start this program by checking on all conservatives. Because they are the biggest threat to the hive and the cause of 95% of domestic terrorism. /sheesh!
24 posted on 05/18/2013 7:32:37 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot. 969 yall.)
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To: trubolotta

If wifey sees me cracking a Stella at 10:30 there would be some “splaining”
to do... Better to suffer in silence.

Thanks.


25 posted on 05/18/2013 7:33:23 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: Rennes Templar
Under the proposed "Violence Prevention Program," anyone who sees a potentially dangerous situation — a schizophrenic person with weapons, a war veteran making threats to passersby — could call a 24-hour hotline. Legitimate-sounding calls would trigger a visit by specially trained deputies in plain clothes or by mental health professionals.

Ignoring the slam against "war veterans" for a moment, just how would any of these situations be dealt with now? Would the PBSO just not respond at all? Seems to me just a different way to soak the taxpayers out of more money for something they should already be doing.

26 posted on 05/18/2013 7:34:18 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: WomBom

You’ve been reported WomBom. Impaired judgment FReeper probably has guns and hates government.


27 posted on 05/18/2013 7:50:53 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: WomBom
Any good Freeper hangover remedies out there??

Just start drinking again!

28 posted on 05/18/2013 7:51:04 AM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: WomBom

you need to get your head right.


29 posted on 05/18/2013 7:51:51 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Second Amendment First

Guilty as charged... But don’t tell anyone


30 posted on 05/18/2013 7:56:46 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: WomBom

Now go crack open that Stella and clean your weapons on the front step.


31 posted on 05/18/2013 8:02:56 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

Sir!
Yes Sir!


32 posted on 05/18/2013 8:06:42 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: Second Amendment First

Sir!
Yes Sir!


33 posted on 05/18/2013 8:08:13 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Yep, just like the IRS is doing. Go after anyone that speaks their mind.


34 posted on 05/18/2013 8:10:23 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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“...a war veteran making threats to passersby...”

After I came back from Vietnam, it seems that on every “cop” show on TV, the bad guy was a “deranged Vietnam vet”.....


35 posted on 05/18/2013 8:26:13 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: JW1949

I didn’t like that line, and I hear you guys loud and clear.

I am like minded


36 posted on 05/18/2013 8:30:10 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: JW1949

I didn’t like that line, and I hear you guys loud and clear.

I am like minded


37 posted on 05/18/2013 8:30:10 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: WomBom

Does Stella make you “fat thumbed”?

Lol sorry for the double posting


38 posted on 05/18/2013 8:31:16 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: JW1949

I remember that too. That is when I quit watching TV. I was USAF 72-76 and did not go to Nam but I was constantly astonished at how Vets and Active dut like me, were treated by too much of the general civilian population. Just wearing the uniform during the early 70’s subjected you to taunts and stares. It was and is still shameful how Vets were and are treated. The left has done everything they can to demonize those who serve today and Vets of recent conflicts. Spit on a democrat not a Vet.


39 posted on 05/18/2013 8:37:04 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot. 969 yall.)
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To: WomBom

A cold beer and a grubbing bacon cheeseburger usually does the trick for me. A fried egg on top is required, though.


40 posted on 05/18/2013 8:52:29 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Rennes Templar
‘Hey, is everything OK?’


41 posted on 05/18/2013 8:56:40 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Lurker

Went with another coffee instead..... She doesn’t suspect a thing.

I have to stop watching the old John Wayne movies into the wee hours.

Trying to imagine the world being the same as it was with a movie and a beer...


42 posted on 05/18/2013 8:57:54 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: WomBom

I know what you mean. I miss The Duke.


43 posted on 05/18/2013 9:00:20 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Last night’s showing was In Harm’s Way


44 posted on 05/18/2013 9:06:21 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: WomBom

I have my kids hooked on the westerns

The Sons of Katie Elder... No finer movie ever made


45 posted on 05/18/2013 9:07:32 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: Rennes Templar

One thing to consider is that the sheriff is LOCAL and subject to local. When the FED GOVT does this it is another story.


46 posted on 05/18/2013 9:13:42 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Rennes Templar

Closing in, right?


47 posted on 05/18/2013 9:16:00 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Rennes Templar

Sheriff Ric Bradshaw’s view is alarming. I don’t like this stance he’s promoting. He seems to get away with so much. It’s almost like shoot first then ask questions some people say here in Florida. I don’t even like entering his city. You feel like you are being watched even before his views and program ideas were publicly known. He deserves criticism. Imo.


48 posted on 05/18/2013 9:19:15 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: WomBom

No one with a slave mentality has a problem with it.


49 posted on 05/18/2013 9:21:39 AM PDT by sport
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To: WomBom

SOKE is good, but I’ve always been partial to The Searchers. Great flick.


50 posted on 05/18/2013 9:22:41 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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