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This reflects well against my family's attitude for cars and driving. Less and less.
1 posted on 05/15/2013 1:53:10 PM PDT by cicero2k
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Americans are ...

Sure. Getting on the Agenda-21 bandwagon, moving into cities (like DestroyIt), joining ICLEI, and going for One World Government....

2 posted on 05/15/2013 1:55:34 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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Also cheap or free shipping of internet orders. I wanted something on sale at Best Buy and I figured at well over $3/gallon it was cheaper for me to just have it shipped rather than driving there on Saturday afternoon and burning a gallon of gas. I used to regularly go to some stores in Cincinnati that aren't in Dayton but it isn't worth my time or money when I can just have stuff shipped.
3 posted on 05/15/2013 1:57:26 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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Driving less has nothing to do with suddenly going mother-Earth and everything to do with expense. Cars are expensive and gas is outrageous. Cash for Clunkers did what it was designed to do and took most of the inexpensive starter cars off the market. My Marauder costs $12-15 to take into town. I bought a VW TDI, which gets 40mpg and performs like a V8. But I watch how much I drive.

It is the liberal dream to force everyone onto public transportation and move everyone into apartments in the inner city. (BTW, they’d still keep their estates and drive their BMW supper cars.)


4 posted on 05/15/2013 1:58:17 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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When I went to the U of Mn every student was hit with a fee that went to MPIRG - the Minnesota branch of PIRG. A totally liberal piece of garbage.

There was a process you could follow to get that money back. I used it every single year I went there.


5 posted on 05/15/2013 1:58:19 PM PDT by DManA
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Owning a car is getting out of reach for many people with taxes, inspections, mandatory insurances, high gas prices.

All brought to us by leftist puppets.


6 posted on 05/15/2013 2:00:03 PM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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Oh, boy. A date with Mary. On the bus.


10 posted on 05/15/2013 2:02:09 PM PDT by onedoug
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This comes from a group (PIRG) with a public transit agenda. Get the facts before trusting a single word.


11 posted on 05/15/2013 2:02:53 PM PDT by bjc
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15 posted on 05/15/2013 2:05:11 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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BULL!


16 posted on 05/15/2013 2:08:49 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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I have young adult children who do not drive. Unlike me, who was bursting at the seams for my 16th birthday to come so I could go and get my learner’s permit.

Reasons for this IMO:

-Absurdly high costs for auto insurance for teens. Used to be lower for girls, but the Gender Equity crowd has taken care of that. It is very plausible that your teen might work a 20 hour per week minimum-wage job and end up plowing the vast majority of that into insurance premiums. So why bother?

-High gas prices and Cash For Clunkers program have left a relative dearth of affordable cars for teens who are not from well-to-do families. At $3.50 a gallon the average teen does not want to be fueling a full-sized Crown Vic left over from the police auction.

-Kids pretty much live online anymore. That’s why the malls are dying IMO. In the 80’s it was where young people went to hang out with their friends. Today they do all of their hanging out and shopping online. My kids don’t drive. but they are on a first-name basis with the UPS driver.

-The MADD crowd has gone to such extreme lengths to try and ensure that not a single teen dies ever at any time from any car-related incident, that kids have pretty much quit trying to learn before they are 18. As it is in most states you have layer upon layer of restriction...must put in 6 months and many hours with an adult before taking your test, severely restricted driving privileges afterwards, can’t ride with any other kids in the car, etc. etc. Most kids are at least 17 by the time they run that gauntlet, and then if they can’t go anywhere with their friends they figure why bother?

Then they go off to college, which is generally a campus environment where cars aren’t necessary. Pretty much they’ve graduated and realize they can’t find a job on the bus line before the thought even occurs to them.


21 posted on 05/15/2013 2:13:31 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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America's boom,period, is over. As more and more states legalize drug use, beginning with marijuana and America's plunge into sexual perversion rockets, the people whobuild manufacturing factories look around and say to themselves,"In twenty years from now, we are not going to have anyone with the intelligence or integerty [sp?] to run and operate the machines or see that the other necessary opeartions are being done". So why build in the U.S.? Let's go to some other Country.

I passed a car today. A young White male was driving it. On the rear bumper was an obama-Biden 2012 sticker. The silver lining to that otherwise black cloud is that those of his ilk and age group that infliced obama on me will get the full benefit of the end results of obama's programs.

23 posted on 05/15/2013 2:17:03 PM PDT by sport
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This is more indication of the deliberate reduction of the standard of living and the destruction of the Middle-class. The Globalists want Americans riding bicycles and taking overcrowded buses like they do in Red China and other Third World pits.


25 posted on 05/15/2013 2:20:30 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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Agenda 21 propaganda. This country is too big to rely on mass transit, stuck in a can of helpless human victims of politics.


32 posted on 05/15/2013 2:29:21 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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High gas prices are killing urban sprawl too. I think that’s part of the plan.


41 posted on 05/15/2013 2:50:34 PM PDT by Rebelbase (1929-1950's, 20+years for full recovery. How long this time?)
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I love how people do a “study” and try to establish causes for effects that happen to match their prejudices.

1. Cars are too expensive for young people that can’t afford them - especially those that are unemployed or under employed and having to pay off massive college loan debt to get their degrees in prostate pleasuring and lesbian bondage. They are sharing rides and relying on friends, family and underground (affordable) transportation. If they have a car at all they are driving a 15 year old Honda. If you can barely afford a beat up old car you certainly don’t need a new truck or SUV to pull the RV or boat that you don’t have, either.
2. Gas is too expensive unless you are working enough to cover your travel - we are now used to paying $3 - $4 per gallon and I expect another “crisis” to raise the bar to $4 - $5 soon.
3. If you are not earning any money, you are not buying that nice house in the burbs - you are living in an apartment somewhere closer to the nearest city and not traveling far (unless you are back living with your parents and using them for transportation).

Bottom line - the likely cause for any drop in car usage is Ohomo’s poor economy, not some lib wet dream about people becoming more green.


48 posted on 05/15/2013 3:03:44 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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It sounds like the Liberal plan of driving up gas prices to reduce people driving may be working.

I take all these studies with a grain of salt. There’s a good chance that car ownership is not declining, but an agenda driven agency is trying to promote that idea to make public transportation seem more acceptable and fashionable.


49 posted on 05/15/2013 3:04:16 PM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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Oh, look, mommy. Another left wing fascist group funded by the Nazi Soros. Seig heil! George

U.S. Public Interest Research Group: This is an umbrella organization of student groups that support leftist agendas.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237


54 posted on 05/15/2013 3:19:41 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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I won’t use public cattle movement, ride sharing, and won’t walk anyehere!!!

I have 1 car, 1 hot rod, and a pickup truck and sometimes get out and drive just to be driving!


55 posted on 05/15/2013 3:27:04 PM PDT by dalereed
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$4/gallon gas.

Gee, who thought we would drive less with $4/gal gas?

Maybe we need a 10 million dollar government study regarding this.

/sarcasm


56 posted on 05/15/2013 3:31:46 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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A number of us freshmen at ESU got roped into PIRG. We were told that they were a fine bunch of fellows...just interested in lowering the cost of bank overdrafts.

Of course that WAS NOT the case - in fact they were Left-Wing rabid animals, that were trying to shut down nuclear power and surrender in the Cold War.

They got my money the first time...but that was it.


58 posted on 05/15/2013 4:13:18 PM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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