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To: rovenstinez
The Choice People of abortion should be all over this one and allow people to do what they want with their money...as they say people have a right to do what they want with their body.

The **only** "choice" the Pro Choice people support is the choice to choose death over life.

One of the problems with conservative groups is that they focus on one narrow topic and the legislation surrounding that issue. The progressive/Marxists, in contrast, infiltrate our institutions and destroy from within.

Seems it should be an American fundamental right to have freedom of expression and support or NOT to support the causes one believes in.

1) Your statement above condemns the very existence of compulsory K-12 socialist-entitment schooling. It is impossible to have a religiously, politically, or culturally neutral education. It is an abomination that any citizen should be under **police threat** to support any government sponsored educational system because to do so fundamentally support government sponsored and NON-neutral religious, political, and cultural indoctrination of children ( the nation's next generation of voters).

One way to totally eliminate the lobbying power of the California Teachers Association is to eliminate the need for government socialist-entitlement teachers. Remove the conservative and Christian kids from the schools, provide attractive private alternatives for all students, work for the complete shut down of all government socialist-entitlement schooling and the 800 lb. Marxist gorilla ( the CTA) disappears.

7 posted on 05/12/2013 7:01:53 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

re: “. . .compulsory K-12 socialist-entitment schooling.”

I understand the “compulsory” part, but I’ve never understood the rest of the description that you constantly make about public schools. My question is, aren’t the police and fire departments just as “socialist” as the public schools? They are all financially supported through taxes. Not everyone will call the police or the fire department, so why should a citizen who never calls the fire department have to pay taxes for it?

A majority of people in each state, county, town at one time decided that educating the children who lived in those entities was a positive for everyone - because the children were the future professionals and leaders which would, at some point, affect all of us. Just as having a police or fire department can/may have a positive benefit for all the citizens of that community. So, what’s the difference?

I’m not defending idiotic curriculum or low standards - I think each town, city, state should determine what they want their schools to be - without any federal government intervention. In fact, there should NOT be a Federal Dept of Education. The Federal government has NO constitutional authority to get involved in it whatsoever. However, isn’t that up to individual states whether or not THEY want to have publicly supported schools? Is that necessarily “communistic” as you always say? Again, if schools are, then why not police and fire departments?

re: “It is impossible to have a religiously, politically, or culturally neutral education.”

I agree, but wasn’t there, at one time, a set of common values shared by most Americans that we wanted our kids to know and adhere to? - the ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution? Does the religious expressions in the Declaration impede on others religious or non-religious beliefs? The Declaration is not neutral either, nor is the Constitution - is that bad? Aren’t the values expressed there ones that we WANT our children to know?

You equate public schools with socialism/marxism/collectivism by definition. I don’t see that that MUST be the case. I don’t see any difference between publicly supported schools and publicly supported police and fire departments. If the people of a town, city, or state doesn’t want those institutions, couldn’t the people of that state vote to remove them?


12 posted on 05/12/2013 8:43:12 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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